RE: VPLS naming issues

"Hamid Ould-Brahim" <[email protected]> Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:13:23 -0400
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Eric,

>
> My  thinking is  that the  Generalized FEC  Id is  a naming 
> mechanism which
> provides everything that  is needed for VPLS, but which  also
> can cover more
> applications.  So I don't really see the downside.
>
 
I haven't seen this subject line before (I guess I didn't realize
that Vach's email on timeslot request included items to be 
discussed).
 
I agree that VPN-ID TLV doesn't address the scope of
deployment scenarios that a VPLS system needs to consider
and particularly distributed VPLS case.
 
I am not sure I understand why Vach is insisting on VPN-ID
TLV since clearly it requires extra work that has already been done 
within PWE3 wg and l2vpn drafts proposals (which pretty much address 
Vach's main requirements and other l2vpn requirements). Besides that any 
VPN-ID proposal will need to be standardized...why go through all of 
that while we do have an approach that is already available and 
documented. 
 
I thought initially the motivation behind VCID is to line up
with Martini's initial signaling model (PWid FEC), but with
the introduction of a VPN-ID TLV that goal disappears anyway.
 
Are there clearly new requirements or technical benefits
that justify defining a new VPN-ID TLV besides just
using the Generalized ID FEC?
 
Hamid.

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<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Eric,</FONT></DIV><FONT face="Courier New" 
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<DIV><BR><FONT size=2><FONT face="Courier New">&gt;<BR>&gt; My&nbsp; thinking 
is&nbsp; that the&nbsp; Generalized FEC&nbsp; Id is&nbsp; a naming&nbsp;<BR>&gt; 
mechanism which<BR>&gt; provides everything that&nbsp; is needed for VPLS, but 
which&nbsp; also<BR>&gt; can cover more<BR>&gt; applications.&nbsp; So I don't 
really see the downside.<BR>&gt;</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face="Courier New"></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face="Courier New">
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>I haven't seen this subject line before (I 
guess I didn't realize</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>that Vach's email on timeslot request 
included items to be </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>discussed).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>I agree that VPN-ID TLV doesn't address the 
scope of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>deployment scenarios that a VPLS system 
needs to consider</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>and particularly distributed VPLS 
case</FONT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>I am not sure I understand why Vach is 
insisting on VPN-ID</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>TLV since clearly it </FONT><FONT 
face="Courier New" size=2>requires extra work that has already been done 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>within PWE3 wg </FONT><FONT 
face="Courier New" size=2>and l2vpn drafts proposals </FONT><FONT 
face="Courier New" size=2>(which pretty much address </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Vach's main </FONT><FONT face="Courier New" 
size=2>requirements and other l2vpn requirements). Besides that any 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>VPN-ID proposal will need </FONT>to be 
standardized...why go through all of </DIV>
<DIV>that while we do have an approach that is already available and </DIV>
<DIV>documented. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I thought initially the motivation&nbsp;behind VCID is to&nbsp;line 
up</DIV>
<DIV>with Martini's initial signaling model (PWid FEC), but with</DIV>
<DIV>the introduction of a&nbsp;VPN-ID TLV that goal disappears anyway.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>Are there clearly new requirements or technical benefits</DIV>
<DIV>that justify defining a new VPN-ID TLV besides just</DIV>
<DIV>using the Generalized ID FEC?</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Hamid.</FONT></FONT></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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