Re: lp:trademark_name field

Hi-

I've reached out to a few of the providers of CHIP-like validations to
comment on this.

Many of the IP systems that are the source for their end result data
were written without the benefit of Unicode, but some of the
clearinghouse providers spend some time in normalizing extended latin
characters into A-Z (ie é->e, ü->u)

USPTO for example is mostly A-Z centric but in some cases do allow
certain characters beyond those typically legal within a non-IDN
domain name, such as extended latin, but candidly, there's no unified
standard.

The Laga system, IPRota, and some of the other clearinghouse services
that will connect up to registries to work with this validation
process on TM are pretty well evolved, but this is better fielded by
them.

-Jothan

Jothan Frakes
+1.206-355-0230 tel
+1.206-201-6881 fax



On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Gavin Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi James,
>
> I am actively trying to get input from various trademark experts and
> authorities - including the UK's IPO and WIPO - about whether any such
> standards exist. I completely agree that we need to get the trademark data
> model right or we're not going to get any adoption.
>
> G.
>
> On 14/04/2011 15:58, James Gould wrote:
>>
>> Gavin,
>>
>> I want to raise the question for the list whether there is any standard
>> trademark authority interface / protocol since I believe that the EPP
>> extension would be highly dependent on the underlying interface
>> requirements with the trademark authorities? It would be great if
>> representatives of the trademark authorities could participate and help
>> collaborate on the EPP extension as well as helping define a standard
>> interface for the registrars and registries to use. I’m afraid without
>> understanding the underlying interface requirements of the trademark
>> authorities that we’ll be guessing on what is needed in the EPP
>> extension that could result in additional custom extensions having to be
>> created or having to build additional flexibility into the extension to
>> mitigate the unknown.
>>
>> --
>>
>> JG
>>
>>
>>
>> *James Gould
>> *Principal Software Engineer
>> [email protected]
>>
>> 703-948-3271
>> 21345 Ridgetop Circle
>> LS2-2-1
>> Dulles, VA 20166
>> VerisignInc.com
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From: *Gavin Brown <[email protected]>
>> *Date: *Thu, 14 Apr 2011 06:58:12 -0400
>> *To: *InterNetX - Volker Janzen <[email protected]>
>> *Cc: *<[email protected]>
>> *Subject: *Re: [provreg] lp:trademark_name field
>>
>> Hi Volker, thanks for your feedback.
>>
>>>  I had a look at the draft and thought about some experiences we had with
>>>  launch phases. A question regarding the lp:trademark_name field
>>> appeared.
>>
>> My understanding of this field is that it does not contain data that is
>> used to validate the applicant's eligibility.
>>
>> When a trademark clearinghouse is validating an application (for
>> example.foo, say), they will take the trademark number (provided in the
>> <lp:trademark_number> element) and use this to obtain the full trademark
>> information from the trademark authority that has jurisdiction over the
>> locality specified in the <lp:trademark_locality> element. This
>> information will include the trademark name. The clearinghouse will then
>> apply whatever the TLD's policy is for confirming that the trademark
>> matches the domain name being applied for.
>>
>> The <lp:trademark_name> field is therefore only a hint used to confirm
>> the mark to which the application refers, but doesn't uniquely and
>> solely identify it. It may not even be needed.
>>
>> Does anyone agree/disagree?
>>
>> G.
>>
>> --
>> CentralNic Ltd
>> Innovative, Reliable and Flexible Registry Services
>> for ccTLD, gTLD and private domain name registries
>> https://www.centralnic.com/
>>
>> CentralNic Ltd is a company registered in England and Wales with company
>> number 4985780. Registered Offices: 35-39 Moorgate, London, EC2R 6AR.
>> _______________________________________________
>> provreg mailing list
>> [email protected]
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/provreg
>>
>
> --
> CentralNic Ltd
> Innovative, Reliable and Flexible Registry Services
> for ccTLD, gTLD and private domain name registries
> https://www.centralnic.com/
>
> CentralNic Ltd is a company registered in England and Wales with company
> number 4985780. Registered Offices: 35-39 Moorgate, London, EC2R 6AR.
> _______________________________________________
> provreg mailing list
> [email protected]
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/provreg
>
_______________________________________________
provreg mailing list
[email protected]
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/provreg