Re: Lists and EPP

Klaus Malorny <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.provreg
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 08/06/11 15:31, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 12:00:25PM +0200, Klaus Malorny wrote:
>
>> However, generally, a reporting mechanism could be done in an
>> incremental way, so that it even could be implemented in EPP:
>
> Why do you want to Extend the protocol so that it's no longer even
> about Provisioning?
>
> I can see a possibly useful extension that requests a report be
> generated.  That is, like other things in EPP, one can request that
> something be provisioned (in this case, a report).  But the response
> to that should not be a long list of domains in-protocol, I think.
> EPP is poorly structured for that sort of bulk operation, on purpose.
>
> A
>


Hi Andrew,

I understand the criticism and I am actually ambivalent about such an approach. 
My posting was just to point out that there is a middle course between having no 
list and a full list, just from a technical (and not philosophical) perspective.

But generally, where to draw the line regarding the functionality? Why is the 
retrieval of the contents of the the registrar's repository at the registry not 
part of the provisioning? With the same argument you could argue that the 
domain:info command is superfluous in most of the cases -- most of the data you 
should have in your own database. But likely nobody would consider to remove 
this command from the protocol.

I think that a registrar-registry protocol should cover the whole technical 
interaction between the two parties. Any kind of communication besides this 
protocol, including downloading reports from FTP servers, reduces the value of 
the protocol.

On the other hand, this requirement collides with a general demand, the 
frugality of a protocol -- once I read the nice sentence "don't reason about 
what you can add to a protocol, but what you can remove from it" (or 
correspondingly). The balance needs to be found.

Regards,

Klaus
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