Re: Where are the Registrars? (was Re: Why must there be one solution? was Re: Lists and EPP)

On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 17:07 -0400, Wilhelm, Richard wrote:
> There's at least one registrar here.

...  quietly listening to the discussions!
  (.co.za team)

> 
> Thx
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> On 6/10/11 4:39 AM, "Bernie Hoeneisen" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Ed et al.
> > 
> > On Thu, 9 Jun 2011, Edward Lewis wrote:
> > 
> >> A few messages back I mentioned that in meetings with some registries, doing
> >> the work to increase commonality was judged to be "not worth it."  A response
> >> on this list was that I was reporting something that was a sampling of a few
> >> registries and not representative of registrars.
> >> 
> >> My comeback (which I just didn't get around to asking until now) is the
> >> registries do know at some level of familiarity, what registrars go through.
> >> The relationship is more symbiotic than adversarial.
> > 
> > As you know, I was with you while talking to Registries about EPP
> > improvements. And I came to a similar conclusion: Registries have little
> > motivation to "change a running system". Registries don't appear to have a
> > problem.
> > 
> > Registries are often those who set the policies and build the (EPP)
> > systems, sometimes with proprietary EPP extensions. Registrars, on the
> > other hand, usually have to cope with what they get and find ways around
> > the resulting problems. However, those who suffer from such problems are
> > Registars!
> > 
> >> And, as a challenge, if registries' opinion is not sufficient, is there
> >> any data that does come from registrars?
> > 
> > I have not observed major Registrar participation in the IETF (or other
> > fora where EPP is discussed), which I believe is a significant cause of
> > the mess that happened with real-life "extended" EPP.
> > 
> > Does anybody know, why there are so few Registrars active in this field?
> > Any idea how to get more Registrars involved in EPP discussions?
> > 
> > cheers,
> >   Bernie
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > http://ucom.ch/
> > Tech Consulting for Internet Technology
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > provreg mailing list
> > [email protected]
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/provreg
> 
> _______________________________________________
> provreg mailing list
> [email protected]
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/provreg

-- 
  .  .     ___. .__      Posix Systems - Sth Africa
 /| /|       / /__       [email protected]  -  Mark J Elkins, Cisco CCIE
/ |/ |ARK \_/ /__ LKINS  Tel: +27 12 807 0590  Cell: +27 82 601 0496

_______________________________________________
provreg mailing list
[email protected]
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/provreg