Re: language (or script?) tagging in draft-obispo-epp-idn-00.txt
Keith Gaughan <[email protected]>
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On 04/01/12 20:25, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 05:53:31PM +0000, Keith Gaughan wrote: >> Instead, 'writing system'[1] would be better: so long as the writing system >> contains no homographs[2], there's no issue. > > Alas, most alphabetic languages are full of homographs. But I bet > that isn't what you mean, anyway; homograph turns out to have an > established meaning in linguistics, and it isn't "two letters that > look the same". In the ICANN VIP discussions we settled on > "homoglyph" as a possibly useful alternative. Cary Karp has extensive > opinions about this. I prefer 'homoglyph' myself, but nearly every time I've seen mention of the attack, the word 'homograph' rather than 'homoglyph' is used. >> [1] By which I mean, all the languages that use the Latin alphabet could be >> said to share a common script and writing system, which are both the same >> thing. It's not an ideal term, I know. > > Indeed, it's wrong, as a consideration of the fall-back handling of > o-with-diaeresis in Swedish and German illustrates. German considers > ö to be an o with an accent on it. In Swedish, it's a separate > letter. That's why German orthography can fall back to "oe" but > Swedish doesn't. Although an interesting historical note is that Swedish 'ö' started out as 'oe'. >> [3] I can't recall whether Traditional and Simplified Han characters occupy >> different code points in general, or the same ones. > > They're different code points, and different Abstract Characters in > Unicode terms; but there are usually pairs (with some nasty corner > cases) of the same Conceptual Characters in TC and SC. Also, since > they're all part of Unihan, they're all "the same script". Thought that, but couldn't remember. K. -- Keith Gaughan, Senior Developer PGP/GPG key ID: 3E896381 Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd. <http://blacknight.com/> 12A Barrowside Business Park, Carlow, Ireland Registered in Ireland, Company No.: 370845 _______________________________________________ provreg mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/provreg