Re: New Version Notification for draft-obispo-epp-idn-00.txt

"Gould, James" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.provreg
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Eric,

Verisign has posted tables of allowed codepoints with IANA.
(http://www.iana.org/domains/idn-tables)  I wonder if you might be
referring to the Arabic table for the COM namespace.
(http://www.iana.org/domains/idn-tables/tables/com_arab_1.0.html)  This
table reflects codepoints allowed in a COM domain by the Verisign
Registry.  The codepoints are based on the Unicode Standard, version 6.0.
And specifically the scripts.txt file.
(http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/Scripts.txt)

Verisign's goal is to leverage appropriate standards wherever possible,
and that's what we tried to do with the Arabic table, and with other
tables posted to the IANA site.  But we're certainly open to ideas you
might have about this or other tables.  Constructive feedback is very
welcome.



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JG



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On 1/6/12 11:36 AM, "Eric Brunner-Williams" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Because of all of the above, I'd like to step back a bit from the
>> language-vs-script and table-based way of framing this discussion and
>> focus more on how one selects which set of code points one wants to
>> use and, if there are rules governing the behaviour of those code
>> points, how one expresses one's options under those rules.  This will
>> make for a more complicated EPP extension, but it will also make for
>> one that actually matches the different registry policies already in
>> place today.  By creating an extension that can accommodate the many
>> different policies in place, we might be able to reduce the number of
>> extensions that actually get deployed.
>
>Concur. An ASCII (hex) code point repertoire of {(41,61), (45,65),
>(49,69), (4f,6f), (55,75), (59,79)} (English vowels) is just as
>reasonable a repertoire {30 ... 39} (digits) and just as reasonable a
>repertoire as {30, 32, ... (5a,7a)} (even valued points within LDH) as
>the ASCII LDH set of code points. None are sufficiently characterized
>as "language" or "script", but are sufficiently characterized as
>enumerations or rules for the construction of repertoires of code points.
>
>For a less mathematician-centric or
>bottom-half-of-the-tty-driver-centric example, consider the "proper
>word" requirement of the circa-2006 Arabic Script group. A "is in a
>dictionary and is not on a reserved list" rule is neither "Arabic"
>(the language") nor "Arabic Script" (the Unicadette created thingie an
>earlier instance of the IDN WG, steered by non-contributors, elected
>to commit _some_ DNS text resource records to). The dictionaries of
>two "Arabic Language" supporting and "Arabic Script" using registries
>may differ, as may their reserved lists.
>
>Verisign's take on Arabic makes me grin. I hope they'll be just as
>creative when it comes to Chinese.
>
>My two beads worth,
>Eric
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