Re: Uniform Poll Responses for Launch Phase Results

James Mitchell <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.provreg
Message-ID <CD575773.58517%[email protected]>
Response below.

On 2/03/13 1:00 AM, "InterNetX - Volker Janzen"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>On 03/01/2013 11:48 AM, James Mitchell wrote:
>> In terms of the allocation process, we are planning to go a
>> completely different way with this. Instead of the server
>> allocating the domain, we will require the registrar allocate
>> the domain name once all is settled on their end. We will notify
>> the Registrar of applications they have been successful with and
>> they can then perform allocation of those (by creating the
>> actual name) at their leisure. Allocation will be performed by
>> sending a domain create with an allocation token using a
>> key-value pair extension. We'd be happy to receive feedback on
>> this approach.
>
>in the past we had to use two different ways in detecting if an
>application has been successful:
>- panData message as James Gould posted
>- domain:info with or without application Id to fetch the domain data
>
>In both cases we could check against local data which customer's
>application was successful.
>
>Regarding your approach, I've these questions for clarification:
>- How can a registrar know which application was successful, if no
>  contact data has been passed? If we have e.g. five customers that
>  apply for the same name in sunrise with trademarks, how do we know
>  which one is allowed to register the domain name?
>- How do you plan to notify the registrar?

We will notify a registrar of all applications won (domain name,
application id, registrant contact id) by email. If registrars prefer we
can notify them via poll message as well.

Note that we have been talking to some registrars who do not plan on
integrating the sunrise/landrush submission process into their core
registration systems, and have expressed interest in this model as a way
to get data into those systems. We are happy to change our process if this
all seems to fall apart, however thought we should point out how we are
planning on implementing it given feedback from registrars.

>
>> - allocation follows the normal flow of information (registrar
>>   requesting a domain name); registrars can activate any services as
>>   normal during the registration process
>
>In my opinion a 1001, action pending and later panData message is a
>normal registration process as well, that will even not require any
>extra work on the registrar side. Your approach would be a completely
>new process that has to be implemented from the ground up.

I never said that it does not work. This model should work well for $5
domain names, someone will be prepared to lose that when either submitting
applications or on successful allocation. If domain names cost $50 or
more, few people will put that down to only to lose in auction, or
registrars will have 5 days to delete the allocated name if payment cannot
be obtained.

This whole process will have to be implemented from the ground up
including the launch phase mapping, the trademark clearinghouse
functionality etc etc.

>
>
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