Re: Contacts after a Domain Transfer

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I think that this is more or less exactly what .se is going to do except
the last point.

And also as a epp client programmer I can confirm that an object don’t
exists error code is sufficient. We dont need an extra error code for
this in my opinion.

My code knows that if you get an object dont exists error code when
trying to register a new domain, that it has do "re-create" the owner again.

On 06/22/2013 09:15 AM, Patrik Fältström wrote:
> 
> On 21 jun 2013, at 17:09, Luis Muñoz <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On Jun 21, 2013, at 3:35 AM, Ewout de Graaf wrote:
>>
>>> Or you can create
>>> new contacts, whatever you want. Please clean up the mess afterwards...
>>
>> Is there any preferred way of doing this?
>>
>> How about sending a poll message prior to purging "orphaned" objects after a reasonable time? What would that "reasonable" time be?
> 
> I think the registry have to be very careful about making changes in the registry database as that is a mirror of what the registrar do have in its database. Just because a contact object in the registry database is orphaned from the registry point of view, maybe it is not in the registrar database. It might be used at a different registry. And as long as the individual the object is describing is a customer of the registrar, the registrar might when a new domain name is registered try to reuse the same object.
> 
> That said, the only reasonable way for a registry to remove objects I think are:
> 
> - Ensure the object has really been orphaned for quite some time (so that it does not create a race condition between creation of the object and registration of a domain name). This must be much longer than the longest time interval existing in the state machine in the registry.
> 
> - When the object is removed, inform via notification visible via poll.
> 
> - When a removed object is used, a special error code is used to inform on the matter so that the registrar know that in that specific case the fallback is to go back, create the object again, and then redo whatever operation failed.
> 
>    Patrik
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