Re: Publishing of the IDN Table EPP Mapping IETF Draft

Kim Davies <[email protected]> Wed, 4 Mar 2015 21:26:42 +0000
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Hi James, Hi all,

The first draft of the IDN Table EPP Mapping has been submitted to the IETF=
.  I co-authored this draft with Francisco Obispo and Luis Mu=F1oz from Uni=
registry to provide a mechanism for getting IDN Table information for the r=
egistration of IDNs, using the EPP domain name mapping, and optionally with=
 the IDN mapping extension ( draft-ietf-eppext-idnmap ).  We would like thi=
s draft to be included in a re-charting of the EPPEXT Working Group.  The d=
raft information is provided below.

URL:            http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gould-idn-table-0=
0.txt
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gould-idn-table/
Htmlized:       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gould-idn-table-00

Please review the draft and provide any feedback.

I=92ve reviewed this draft, and the -01 update, and have some belated feedb=
ack on this document.

Along with colleagues in the community, I have been working on draft-davies=
-idntables (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-davies-idntables) and its goa=
l is to document a universal format for =93IDN tables=94, intended to super=
sede and be a full superset of the panoply for formats that are out there t=
oday. This format has a specific schema, is intended to be fully machine re=
adable, and allow implementation using a generic LGR-capable engine. Based =
on draft-gould-idn-table I believe it should be fully capable of representi=
ng the IDN table data described in the document.

I would recommend recasting this proposed mapping to utilise draft-davies-i=
dntables as the mechanism for describing code point eligibility, and making=
 the <info> verb in the EPP extension a mechanism for transmitting fully-fo=
rmed label generation rulesets (the term for IDN tables in draft-davies-idn=
tables). It would provide for maximum reuse of the grammar, plus provide th=
e additional benefit that should a registry have a more complex policy than=
 simple codepoint eligibility that it can be accurately conveyed.

Given the term =93IDN tables=94 is being gradually replaced with =93label g=
eneration rulesets=94 (LGRs) in ICANN=92s work, as a more generic term that=
 is not specific to IDNs, it is worth considering using this terminology el=
sewhere in this document.

If there are particular considerations that mean draft-davies-idntables wou=
ldn=92t be a suitable format, that would be useful feedback to help us iter=
ate the draft-davies-idntables document with additional requirements.

cheers,

kim









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Hi James, Hi all,
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<div class=3D"">The first draft of the IDN Table EPP Mapping has been submi=
tted to the IETF. &nbsp;I co-authored this draft with Francisco Obispo and =
Luis Mu=F1oz from Uniregistry to provide a mechanism for getting IDN Table =
information for the registration of IDNs,
 using the EPP domain name mapping, and optionally with the IDN mapping ext=
ension (&nbsp;draft-ietf-eppext-idnmap ). &nbsp;We would like this draft to=
 be included in a re-charting of the EPPEXT Working Group. &nbsp;The draft =
information is provided below.</div>
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<div class=3D"">URL: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gould-idn-=
table-00.txt" class=3D"">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gould-id=
n-table-00.txt</a><br class=3D"">
Status: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://=
datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gould-idn-table/" class=3D"">https://datatra=
cker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gould-idn-table/</a><br class=3D"">
Htmlized: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.=
org/html/draft-gould-idn-table-00" class=3D"">http://tools.ietf.org/html/dr=
aft-gould-idn-table-00</a><br class=3D"">
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<div class=3D"">Please review the draft and provide any feedback.</div>
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<div>I=92ve reviewed this draft, and the -01 update, and have some belated =
feedback on this document.</div>
<div><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div>Along with colleagues in the community, I have been working on draft-d=
avies-idntables (<a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-davies-idntab=
les" class=3D"">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-davies-idntables</a>) and=
 its goal is to document a universal
 format for =93IDN tables=94, intended to supersede and be a full superset =
of the panoply for formats that are out there today. This format has a spec=
ific schema, is intended to be fully machine readable, and allow implementa=
tion using a generic LGR-capable engine.
 Based on draft-gould-idn-table I believe it should be fully capable of rep=
resenting the IDN table data described in the document.</div>
<div><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div>I would recommend recasting this proposed mapping to utilise draft-dav=
ies-idntables as the mechanism for describing code point eligibility, and m=
aking the &lt;info&gt; verb in the EPP extension a mechanism for transmitti=
ng fully-formed label generation rulesets
 (the term for IDN tables in draft-davies-idntables). It would provide for =
maximum reuse of the grammar, plus provide the additional benefit that shou=
ld a registry have a more complex policy than simple codepoint eligibility =
that it can be accurately conveyed.</div>
<div><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div>Given the term =93IDN tables=94 is being gradually replaced with =93la=
bel generation rulesets=94 (LGRs) in ICANN=92s work, as a more generic term=
 that is not specific to IDNs, it is worth considering using this terminolo=
gy elsewhere in this document.</div>
<div><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div>If there are particular considerations that mean draft-davies-idntable=
s wouldn=92t be a suitable format, that would be useful feedback to help us=
 iterate the draft-davies-idntables document with additional requirements.<=
/div>
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<div>cheers,</div>
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<div>kim</div>
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