IPsec and RDDP as a transport

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I think the discussion with Caitlin has reached the point
where a summary and opening up the discussion to others is
in order.

In essence, Caitlin strongly suggests that RDDP's security
requirements should be derived by considering it as a transport
protocol optimization and looking to what is required of other
transport protocols.  SCTP (RFC 2960) is an obvious place to
look.

I think that this is viable (although I'm probably in for a
lengthy discussion with the security ADs - part of my job
as a WG chair), but there are three important consequences
that I'd like to see comments on:

(1) The "no IPsec" (or equivalent mechanism) level of requirement
	would apply only to implementations that restrict all STags
	to be one-shot (single use in some sense).

(2) Implementations that allow longer-lived STags would in all
	likelihood be subject to a stronger security requirement
	due to the increased application exposure created by
	long-lived STags.

(3) STag values will probably have a randomness requirement to
	make them hard to guess.  See the discussion of the SCTP
	Initiate Tag and its randomness requirements in RFC 2960
	(e.g., Section 5.3.1).

Thanks,
--David
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