RE: RAQMON drafts

My question was primarily VoIP-oriented. So it appears that until we
define some meaningful/useful extensions, RAQMON for *strictly* VoIP may
not make much practical sense.

Thanks, 
Danny

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:41 AM
> To: Alan Clark; Lobo, Danny
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [RMONMIB] RAQMON drafts
> 
> A clarification - RAQMON does not target specifically and solely VoIP.
> It's applicability is for multiple applications QoS monitoring. RAQMON
> framework is defined to be extensible by supplementary metrics, as
> required by various applications. So, for people who do not believe
that
> loss and jitter is good enough for VoIP (I happen to be among them) we
> can define RAQMON extensions that carry for example RTCP XR metrics
from
> RFC 3611. There will be many applications that will come in the
feature,
> and new metrics (see RFC 3611 being now extended) - the idea of RAQMON
> is exactly to provide basic metrics for initial baselining, define the
> transport rules and an extensible QoS monitoring framework that could
> accommodate further metrics and future applications.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alan Clark
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 5:22 PM
> > To: Lobo, Danny
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [RMONMIB] RAQMON drafts
> >
> > Danny
> >
> > Actually almost all the VoIP test equipment vendors use the
> > same technology for VoIP performance monitoring.  It is also
> > worth noting that both Audiocodes and Texas Instruments
> > announced in early 2005 that they were integrating technology
> > into their VoIP solutions to support RTCP XR and related
> > reporting protocols, which from a technology perspective
> > represents a sizeable proportion of the VoIP market.
> >
> > I've been fighting the "loss and jitter is good enough"
> > mentality for six years, and fortunately most of the industry
> > has seen the light!!
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> >
> > >I have been following the above thread for sometime now and do I
> > >understand the gist of your arguments. Given what you said, I am
> > >wondering how many VoIP test/monitoring Vendors will
> > actually implement
> > >RAQMON?
> > >
> > >There are some industry heavy weights behind this standard but -
> > >correct me if I am wrong - it appears that there isn't much mass
> > >support. A lot of Vendors seem to have their own proprietary
> > >implementation of VoIP monitoring and one would expect that
> > a standard
> > >(RAQMON?) would be a unifying force.
> > >
> > >Any thoughts/comments would be appreciated.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Danny Lobo
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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