Proposed response to LS from 3GPP RAN2
Magnus Westerlund <[email protected]> Wed, 27 Mar 2019 07:31:07 +0000
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--===============0699423708470897452== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_HE1PR0701MB252254CA77C5608B4E5CF8E095580HE1PR0701MB2522_" --_000_HE1PR0701MB252254CA77C5608B4E5CF8E095580HE1PR0701MB2522_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, The IESG is targeting to approve the response on Friday sometime after 13:0= 0 CET. Appreciate any comment you may have. Cheers Magnus Title: In Response to 3GPP RAN2=92s LS on RoHC utilization for Ethernet hea= der compression To: 3GPP RAN2 Cc: IEEE 802 From: IETF >From Contact: Magnus Westerlund Purpose: In Response Reference: R2-1902372 Body: Greetings, The IETF appreciate 3GPP RAN2 reaching out to IETF on the topic of robust h= eader compression (ROHC). We are happy to answer your questions. See below = for our response to your questions. But let us first provide some backgroun= d information. It has been 9 years since the ROHC WG was closed, IETF currently has no est= ablished community working on ROHC. However, for minor work adding a work i= tem to the TSVWG would be a possibility. The IETF could also consider formi= ng a new WG if there would be good reasons for more substantial work on hea= der compression. However, for a single ROHC profile there are no necessity = for such work in IETF. In case 3GPP would see a need for combining compress= ion of ethernet with several sets of high layer protocols, for example Ethe= rnet/IPv6/UDP and Ethernet/IPv6/TCP etc. there might be wider interest whic= h may motivate doing such work in IETF. The ROHC framework is defined to allow for additional profiles and allows r= egistration of ROHC profiles from both IETF and external bodies, such as 3G= PP. The IANA registry for ROHC Profile Identifiers (https://www.iana.org/as= signments/rohc-pro-ids/rohc-pro-ids.xhtml#rohc-pro-ids-1) is operating unde= r the Specification Required policy defined in RFC 8126. Q1: Does IETF or IEEE have any concerns with 3GPP defining new RoHC profile= for Ethernet header compression? Answer: IETF has no issues with 3GPP defining a ROHC profile as long it is = registered with IANA. Q3: In case 3GPP is allowed to develop RoHC profile for Ethernet header com= pression, does it have to be registered with IANA. If yes, how long can suc= h process take? Answer: For 3GPP to be assigned a ROHC profile identifier the new profile n= eeds to be registered with IANA. This registry operates under a Specificati= on Required policy. A 3GPP technical specification meet the formal requirem= ents of this policy and enable registration. There is also an IANA expert review, this review is to verify that the regi= stration is for a ROHC profile with an interoperable description. The IANA = registration process should be accomplished from submitted request to compl= etion in a couple of weeks (2-4) given no issues are identified. When the e= xpert has approved the registration the IANA will assign the profile an ide= ntifier. Q4: According to IETF, what are the actions needed of 3GPP to specify and m= aintain a ROHC profile? 3GPP defines and documents the ROHC profile in a technical specification. W= hen the content of the specification is mature and describes a solution tha= t fits the ROHC framework RFC 5795 and enables interoperable implementation= , then 3GPP can submit a registration request to IANA (https://www.iana.org= /protocols/apply) for a ROHC Profile Identifier. If there are any issues th= e expert will communicate such issues to the 3GPP contact person requesting= the registration, so they can communicate these to the 3GPP RAN2 WG so tha= t they can be resolved. When registration has been approved, IANA will assi= gn a profile identifier that can be added to the 3GPP specification. Contin= ued maintenance of the ROHC profile is solely under 3GPP responsibility. Please note that the registration request can be sent prior to the 3GPP spe= cification is 100% complete, but the ROHC profile description needs to be m= ature enough for the expert to determine that the profile will result in in= teroperable implementations. -- Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Network Architecture & Protocols, Ericsson Research ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Torshamnsgatan 23 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: [email protected]<mailto= :[email protected]> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --_000_HE1PR0701MB252254CA77C5608B4E5CF8E095580HE1PR0701MB2522_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DWindows-1= 252"> </head> <body text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"> <p>Hi, <br> </p> <p>The IESG is targeting to approve the response on Friday sometime after 1= 3:00 CET. 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style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-weigh= t:bold" lang=3D"EN-GB">Title: In Response to 3GPP RAN2=92s </span><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang=3D"EN-= GB">L<span style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight:bold">S on RoHC utilization for Et= hernet header compression</span></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bott= om:6.0pt;=0A= margin-left:4.0cm;text-indent:-4.0cm;tab-stops:155.95pt"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-weigh= t:bold" lang=3D"EN-GB">To: 3GPP RAN2</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bott= om:6.0pt;=0A= margin-left:4.0cm;text-indent:-4.0cm;tab-stops:155.95pt"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-weigh= t:bold" lang=3D"EN-GB">Cc: IEEE 802</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bott= om:6.0pt;=0A= margin-left:4.0cm;text-indent:-4.0cm;tab-stops:155.95pt"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-weigh= t:bold" lang=3D"EN-GB">From: IETF</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bott= om:6.0pt;=0A= margin-left:4.0cm;text-indent:-4.0cm;tab-stops:155.95pt"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-weigh= t:bold" lang=3D"EN-GB">From Contact: Magnus Westerlund</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bott= om:6.0pt;=0A= margin-left:4.0cm;text-indent:-4.0cm;tab-stops:155.95pt"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-weigh= t:bold" lang=3D"EN-GB">Purpose: In Response</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bott= om:6.0pt;=0A= margin-left:4.0cm;text-indent:-4.0cm;tab-stops:155.95pt"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-weigh= t:bold" lang=3D"EN-GB">Reference: </span><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-fa= mily:"Arial",sans-serif" lang=3D"EN-GB">R2-1902372</span></b></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bott= om:6.0pt;=0A= margin-left:4.0cm;text-indent:-4.0cm;tab-stops:155.95pt"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-weigh= t:bold" lang=3D"EN-GB"> </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bott= om:6.0pt;=0A= margin-left:4.0cm;text-indent:-4.0cm;tab-stops:155.95pt"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-weigh= t:bold" lang=3D"EN-GB"><span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Body:<= /span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bott= om:6.0pt;=0A= margin-left:4.0cm;text-indent:-4.0cm;tab-stops:155.95pt"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-weigh= t:bold" lang=3D"EN-GB">Greetings,</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bott= om:6.0pt;=0A= margin-left:4.0cm;text-indent:-4.0cm;tab-stops:155.95pt"> <span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-weigh= t:bold" lang=3D"EN-GB"> </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:6.0pt;tab-stops:155.95pt"><sp= an style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-weight:b= old" lang=3D"EN-GB">The IETF appreciate 3GPP RAN2 reaching out to IETF on t= he topic of robust header compression (ROHC). We are happy to answer your questions. See below for our response to your questio= ns. But let us first provide some background information. </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:6.0pt;tab-stops:155.95pt"><sp= an style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang=3D"EN-GB">It has= been 9 years since the ROHC WG was closed, IETF currently has no establish= ed community working on ROHC. However, for minor work adding a work item to the TSVWG would be a possibility. The IETF could als= o consider forming a new WG if there would be good reasons for more substan= tial work on header compression. However, for a single ROHC profile there a= re no necessity for such work in IETF. In case 3GPP would see a need for combining compression of ethernet = with several sets of high layer protocols, for example Ethernet/IPv6/UDP an= d Ethernet/IPv6/TCP etc. there might be wider interest which may motivate d= oing such work in IETF. </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:6.0pt;tab-stops:155.95pt"><sp= an style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang=3D"EN-GB">The RO= HC framework is defined to allow for additional profiles and allows registr= ation of ROHC profiles from both IETF and external bodies, such as 3GPP. The IANA registry for ROHC Profile Identifiers (<a h= ref=3D"https://www.iana.org/assignments/rohc-pro-ids/rohc-pro-ids.xhtml#roh= c-pro-ids-1">https://www.iana.org/assignments/rohc-pro-ids/rohc-pro-ids.xht= ml#rohc-pro-ids-1</a>) is operating under the Specification Required policy defined in RFC 8126. </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:6.0pt;tab-stops:155.95pt"><sp= an style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-weight:b= old" lang=3D"EN-GB"> </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoHeader" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;tab-stops:65.2pt"><i s= tyle=3D"mso-bidi-font-style:normal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial&= quot;,sans-serif" lang=3D"EN-GB">Q1: Does IETF or IEEE have any concerns wi= th 3GPP defining new RoHC profile for Ethernet header compression?</span></i></p> <p class=3D"MsoHeader" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;tab-stops:65.2pt"><spa= n style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang=3D"EN-GB">Answer:= IETF has no issues with 3GPP defining a ROHC profile as long it is registe= red with IANA.</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoHeader" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;tab-stops:65.2pt"><i s= tyle=3D"mso-bidi-font-style:normal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial&= quot;,sans-serif" lang=3D"EN-GB">Q3: In case 3GPP is allowed to develop RoH= C profile for Ethernet header compression, does it have to be registered with IANA. If yes, how long can such process take?</span>= </i></p> <p class=3D"MsoHeader" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;tab-stops:65.2pt"><spa= n style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang=3D"EN-GB">Answer:= For 3GPP to be assigned a ROHC profile identifier the new profile needs to= be registered with IANA. This registry operates under a Specification Required policy. A 3GPP technical specification meet the f= ormal requirements of this policy and enable registration. </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoHeader" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;tab-stops:65.2pt"><spa= n style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang=3D"EN-GB">There i= s also an IANA expert review, this review is to verify that the registratio= n is for a ROHC profile with an interoperable description. The IANA registration process should be accomplished from submitted reques= t to completion in a couple of weeks (2-4) given no issues are identified. = When the expert has approved the registration the IANA will assign the prof= ile an identifier.</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoHeader" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;tab-stops:65.2pt"><i s= tyle=3D"mso-bidi-font-style:normal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial&= quot;,sans-serif" lang=3D"EN-GB">Q4: According to IETF, what are the action= s needed of 3GPP to specify and maintain a ROHC profile?</span></i></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:6.0pt;tab-stops:155.95pt"><sp= an style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-weight:b= old" lang=3D"EN-GB">3GPP defines and documents the ROHC profile in a techni= cal specification. When the content of the specification is mature and describes a solution that fits the ROHC framework RFC 5795 a= nd enables interoperable implementation, then 3GPP can submit a registratio= n request to IANA (<a href=3D"https://www.iana.org/protocols/apply">https:/= /www.iana.org/protocols/apply</a>) for a ROHC Profile Identifier. If there are any issues the expert will com= municate such issues to the 3GPP contact person requesting the registration= , so they can communicate these to the 3GPP RAN2 WG so that they can be res= olved. When registration has been approved, IANA will assign a profile identifier that can be added to the 3= GPP specification. Continued maintenance of the ROHC profile is solely unde= r 3GPP responsibility. </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:6.0pt;tab-stops:155.95pt"><sp= an style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-weight:b= old" lang=3D"EN-GB">Please note that the registration request can be sent p= rior to the 3GPP specification is 100% complete, but the ROHC profile description needs to be mature enough for the expert to d= etermine that the profile will result in interoperable implementations.</sp= an></p> <p></p> <pre class=3D"moz-signature" cols=3D"72">-- =0A= =0A= Magnus Westerlund =0A= =0A= ----------------------------------------------------------------------=0A= Network Architecture & Protocols, Ericsson Research=0A= ----------------------------------------------------------------------=0A= Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287=0A= Torshamnsgatan 23 | Mobile +46 73 0949079=0A= SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated"= href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">magnus.westerlund@ericsson.= com</a>=0A= ----------------------------------------------------------------------</pre= > </body> </html> --_000_HE1PR0701MB252254CA77C5608B4E5CF8E095580HE1PR0701MB2522_-- --===============0699423708470897452== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Rohc mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rohc --===============0699423708470897452==--