[saag] on derivative work rights statements in emails to Secur ity Area mailing lists

Paul Wouters <[email protected]> Wed, 19 Nov 2025 17:18:15 -0500
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The IESG released a statement on Clarifying Derivative Works Rights [1] and

clarified that statement in [2]  that covers emails, complaints, and
appeals sent

to WG lists, WG chairs and ADs.


The IESG statement gives us the option to consider repeated derivative
rights

claims as disruption.

We would like to draw your attention to:

“(c) silencing of risk-adverse participants – participants that lack the
resources

to assess such non-standard new, non-conformant legal clauses will refrain

from participating for fear of liability.”

We consider that such claims deter participation by people without legal
support,

and for that reason we ask that no derivative rights claims are attached to
future

emails sent to Security Area Working Groups mailing lists.

As Area Directors, we would like to present a consistent view across the
Security

Area lists. We urge WG Chairs to warn individuals who continue to post to
our

lists using derivative rights claims and to consider repeated posts as
Disruptive

Behavior as per [3]:

If members of the community think that such claims should be permitted, they

should join the work in [email protected] to revise 5378. We will of course
respect

any new community consensus that emerges from that.

In a similar vein, discussion of Trust Legal Provisions should be conducted
on

[email protected].


If you have any questions now or later, feel free to reach out to us.

Deb and Paul

Security Area Directors


[1]
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/statement-iesg-statement-on-clarifying-derivative-works-rights/

[2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/d5tK-Ut1QZtgSaodWGC2MCgwqcw/

[3]
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/statement-iesg-iesg-statement-on-disruptive-posting-20060217/

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