[saag] Re: on derivative work rights statements in emails to Security Area mailing lists

On 11/26/2025 4:36 AM, John Mattsson wrote:

> I strongly agree that derivative-rights claims are disruptive and should be stopped. Such claims run counter to what the IETF is supposed to stand for: the freedom to use and share information. Participants should not have to worry about copyright to take part in IETF mailing lists.
>
> I’m less convinced that the burden should fall on individual WG chairs. A more effective approach would be to automatically block emails containing derivative-rights claims. Preferably they should not be distributed at all.

Maybe, but "automatically block" implies some algorithm that determines 
whether a message contains derivative-rights claims. Such algorithms 
will by necessity be wrong some of the time, either letting through 
claims that they did not recognize, or blocking messages that did not 
contain any claim. Which means we end up with a burden to manually 
review decisions.

I would prefer something simpler, similar to the way we treat the 
footers added by many organization to their outgoing mail. State that 
the very fact of posting to an IETF list means that any such claim in 
the message is considered null and void, and make that widely know.

-- Christian Huitema

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