[saag] Re: post quantum guidance draft

Eric Rescorla <[email protected]> Mon, 1 Dec 2025 06:28:33 -0800
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On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 6:15 AM Stephen Farrell <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> Hiya,
>
> On 01/12/2025 14:07, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> > This revision does not affect my opinion on the value of this work,
> > which is not based on the introduction and background.
> >
> > I do not believe the IETF should take it up.
>
> It's entirely fair to have that opinion but can you say why?
>

I already did so on SECDISPATCH:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/secdispatch/2ae8yAjMc98__3jTkhKWi-JHvEg/

These comments are about -03, but as I said, they continue to apply.

-Ekr


> Ta,
> S.
>
>
> >
> > -Ekr
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 4:38 AM Stephen Farrell <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hiya,
> >>
> >> We chatted a bit about [1] at the secdispatch session
> >> in Montreal and the sort-of outcome was that further
> >> discussion should be on this list. I've updated [1] a
> >> little bit in the meantime.
> >>
> >> I heard various reactions to [1] at secdispatch and
> >> in subsequent chats with a few people, those included:
> >>
> >> 1. we need something like this (maybe this text or some
> >>      other, but some general guidance is needed)
> >> 2. we don't need this, specific WGs should provide whatever
> >>      guidance is needed, if any
> >> 3. we shouldn't bother with this at all, it's just a waste
> >>      of time and will go nowhere
> >>
> >> There are likely other positions on this too of course.
> >>
> >> Given that we've probably hit 100 new PQ codepoints over
> >> the various IANA registries (anyone counted 'em all?), I'm
> >> clearly in favour of #1 above. #2 seems likely to make
> >> for more confusion and be quite slow, and while #3
> >> might turn out to be the case, I think we owe it to
> >> people using our stuff to give it a shot.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> S.
> >>
> >> PS: For those who don't read the draft:-) It doesn't say
> >> anything about what WGs should do, it's only about what
> >> people deploying stuff ought do in the near term.
> >>
> >> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-farrell-tls-pqg/
> >>
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