[saag] Re: Suggested Project

Maybe? It seems like we'd want some evidence that either (1) manufacturers
were interested in broadcasting such a signal or (2) regulators were
interested in requiring it. Is there some?


-Ekr


On Mon, Mar 9, 2026 at 9:01 AM Michael StJohns <[email protected]>
wrote:

> HI Eric et al -
>
> Let's turn this about 90 degrees.  I agree with John and Eric about the
> policy issues, but instead of using Bluetooth to ask permission, how about
> just having it broadcast "recording in progress here"?  That's something
> that the policy/law folk can mandate and that a human in the loop (or even
> an automated system) can take action on.   And the law(s) can make carve
> outs for where confidential recording is permitted.
>
> All that said - Bluetooth is usually not in our wheelhouse unless also
> tied to IP.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On 3/9/2026 09:05, Eric Rescorla wrote:
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> On Mon, Mar 9, 2026 at 4:02 AM Joe Chiarella <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> To whom it may concern: (Russ Housley pointed me to this email)
>>
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>>
>> I’m thinking about the growing problem of “smart glasses” and their
>> stealth recording. What if there was a standard Bluetooth protocol whereby
>> glasses would be required to “handshake” with all other Bluetooth devices
>> in range (smartphones, laptops, lapel pins, other glasses, etc.) and ask
>> for permission to record (something like robots.txt for web pages). If ANY
>> devices in range say “no” then recording is blocked. Does that make sense?
>>
>
> As John Mattsson's response suggests, the question of nonconsensual
> recording
> seems like a policy question about who decides whether recording is
> permissible
> that is not readily solved by technical means. The issue is that there are
> some
> settings where we want people to be able to deny consent (inside your
> house?)
> but others where we do not (law enforcement officers preventing protesters
> from recording). These are not really technically distinguishable.
>
> -Ekr
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>>
>> Just an idea. And probably one that someone else has already had. But I
>> toss it out just in case.
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>> ps – I’d love if this also worked for Amazon Alexa type “smart” devices
>> to indicate whether or not they should be “listening”.
>>
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>>
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