[saag] PAIN-P side-meeting at IETF126/Vienna

Thomas Hardjono <[email protected]> Sat, 11 Jul 2026 10:41:31 -0400
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Hi Folks,

We are planning to have another PAIN-P discussion group as a side meeting
at the coming IETF126 in Vienna.

The time slot is Monday (20 July) at 18:00pm Vienna-time. The venue/room is
"Park Suite 4=E2=80=9D and also via Zoom.

Below is the proposed Agenda for the meeting.


Best

=E2=80=94thomas


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Proactive Analytics & Intelligence for Network Protection (PAIN-P)

Proposed Agenda for PAIN-P at IETF126 Vienna

(All times are shown below in US East Standard Time (EST)).

=E2=80=94 Date: Monday 20th July 2026.

=E2=80=94 Time-slot:   12:00 to 14:00 US EST  (18:00 to 20:00 Vienna time).

=E2=80=94 Venue:  Zoom and in-person (Hilton Vienna Park, Room: "Park Suite=
 4").

=E2=80=94 Zoom Link:  see https://sidemeetings.ietf.org.



Proposed Agenda:

12:00 =E2=80=93 12:05  (US East) =E2=80=93 Agenda & Logistics: Thomas Hardj=
ono (MIT).

12:05 =E2=80=93 12:15   (US East) =E2=80=93 Introduction: Jeremy Kepner (MI=
T)

12:15 =E2=80=93 12:45   (US East) =E2=80=93 Andrew Morris (Grey Noise).

12:45 =E2=80=93 13:15   (US East) =E2=80=93 Jeffrey Howard (North Star Labs=
).

13:15 =E2=80=93 13:30  (US East) =E2=80=93 Hayden Jananthan (MIT)

13:30 =E2=80=93 14:00  (US East) =E2=80=93 Kimberly Claffy (CAIDA.org/UCSD)

14:00 (US East) =E2=80=93 Discussion & Close.

=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94

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