[saag] Re: draft-paulwh-crypto-components-02

Stephen Farrell <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.saag
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hiya,

On 11/02/2025 21:33, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> More reviews are welcome.

I think section 3.4 needs a bit more work.

The IRTF (mostly CFRG) fairly frequently creates registries
which is sorta mentioned here, but also ignored some, e.g. in
the first para, 2nd sentence, which is a bit misleading given
that that RG does not need IETF consensus.

I guess CFRG could publish an RFC with a registry that requires
an RFC, which isn't really covered here. (Not sure if it's worth
a mention.) And of course, while it'd be pretty odd, CFRG could
create an initially empty registry that calls for IETF consensus
for adding entries. (Or maybe even not initially empty?)

I don't think it'd be worthwhile trying to figure out how to
"govern" creation of IANA registries by CFRG along the lines
above, but I do think it'd be good to spend time to figure out
how to hand-over work from CFRG to the IETF, when that's what
really should happen. RFC9180 is the main example I have in
mind but there're probably more cases, where it was a fine
plan to do initial work in CFRG but where subsequently moving
maintenance to the IETF would be an even better plan. The reason
to mention this is that if such an improved understanding between
the IETF SEC area and CFRG could be reached, then I figure that
would result in changes to this text. (And well, it's also a
thing that's overdue, given the workload and latency involved
in CFRG work, which isn't really conducive to maintenance
activities.)

As a near-nit: the new bit of text saying IETF consensus is
good for 'anything other than "MAY"' needs to be reworded - the
relevant TLS registries have Y/N values. SSH does have a column
with MAY or SHOULD or MUST values, which is currently a thing
generating debate so I'm not sure adding that now is so good an
idea, but I'm not objecting. (FWIW, while I don't agree with the
'anything other than MAY' recommendation myself, the surrounding
text clarifying that everything here can and likely will see
relatively common exceptions, makes that kinda harmless, so it's
ok, even if not what I'd write.)

Cheers,
S.

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