[saag] Re: On path Active Attackers, and Meddlers in the M iddle

Michael Richardson <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.saag
Message-ID <[email protected]>
I've heard many bits of response about this draft, most seem supportive, with
one or two believing this is just some kind of virtue signaling.

My opinion is what Jon Callas said:

> I also agree that we should stop -- I've never liked the term because it is
> too vague, and indeed, people use it for both passive and active attacks.

Jon didn't like "active on-path attacker" is unpalatable to many, we could do
something else.  I'd like saag to adopt the document now (or not) because it
addresses a problem that we have.
Jon also suggested, "active in-path attacker"

jon> For example, there are ad-blockers and malware blockers that are active,
jon> on-path *defenses*, and even if they might have peculiar placements in
jon> the path. And of course, the proxy firewalls of yore are also a thing.

Seems reasonable to also speak about active on-path defenses.

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Michael Richardson <[email protected]>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
           Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide

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