[saag] Re: Relative OIDs are the simpler form of OID (Re : A simpler form of OID)

On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 12:54 PM Phillip Hallam-Baker <[email protected]>
wrote:

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> On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 3:16 PM Christian Huitema <[email protected]>
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>> The cheap TLS certs are cheap because they work with the DNS and
>> automatically issue certificates upon proof of control of a DNS name.
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> They are cheap because Google underwrote the cost of production because
> certain ISPs were stealing advertising dollars from Google by replacing the
> ads placed by the content provider with ads sold by the ISP.
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This is not correct.

1. The original founders of ISRG (which runs Let's Encrypt) were Akamai,
Cisco, EFF/UMichigan, and Mozilla.
2. The first Let's Encrypt certificate was issued 2015-09-15
3. If you look at the Let's Encrypt page on Internet Archive, you'll see
that the earliest date on which Chrome [0] was listed as a sponsor was
2015-12-25 [1] At that point, there were already 20 Major sponsors and 5
other Platinum sponsors (the founding 4 + OVH).

I can't speak to Chrome's motivation for joining Let's Encrypt, but it's
simply not true that the reason certificates are cheap is that Google
underwrote the cost of production. Obviously ISRG was glad to have Google's
support, but Let's Encrypt would have existed with or without it.

-Ekr

[0] At that time, Chrome was specifically listed as a sponsor, not Google.
[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20151225230134/https://letsencrypt.org/
[2] https://web.archive.org/web/20151219121508/https://letsencrypt.org/

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