Re: beep+sasl+srp draft issues

Stephen Farrell <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.sacred
Organization Baltimore Technologies Ltd.
Message-ID <[email protected]>

All,

Here's what I take from the mail exchanges on these issues
(but do continue discussion if there's more to be said):

> - We want to hash the userid in case the user types her
> password into the "username" box. We could do this above
> SASL-SRP or else could try get the SASL-SRP draft to include
> the trick itself (I prefer the latter). Any opinions?

We drop this & ask the SASL-SRP authors if they'll include it.
So this is closed.
 
> - The sacred-pdm draft had an "extra" rsa private key which
> was used for signing credential uploads - do we want to
> maintain this feature? (The reason for it was to make
> it harder to benefit from stealing the server's database.)

No-one argued to keep the "extra" key, so it's gone. However,
whether to allow support for something "better" than just SRP 
for uploads (e.g. signing) is still an issue - I'll think 
about this a bit more and send a separate mail.

> - SASL-SRP makes it easy to authenticate and derive keys for
> credential download, changes etc, but what about initial
> registration? Is that to be offline only or do we need
> to have a credential deposit operation that uses some other
> "in-payload" security?

I wasn't clear describing this one: what I wanted to know was
whether we need to support a secure form of on-line user 
self-registration. (We clearly need to allow, but not specify 
mechanisms for, out-of-band/offline/bulk registration.)

I got the (not very strong:-) impression that folks do want to 
support this, so I'll try to include something.

> - The sacred-pdm draft had some notes about "away-from-home"
> operation, which is harder using SASL (unless we put the
> SASL PDUs in our payload as Magnus suggested). Do we want
> to support this & if so, how?

No-one so far seems to really need this, so I'll drop it
(but maybe leave some notes in an appendix in case it turns
up again later.)

Stephen.

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