BEEP/SOAP (Was RE: SACRED Protocol (long!))

Mike Just <[email protected]> Fri, 7 Dec 2001 09:51:27 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.sacred
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Ok, so maybe the question should be "Why Beep?"  If we (meaning the company
I work for) implement XKMS and other web services using SOAP, I'd certainly
prefer that SACRED did the same. 

Mike 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Crocker [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:47 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: SACRED Protocol (long!)
> 
> 
> 
> Folks,
> 
> >To: "Magnus Nystrom" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
> >Subject: Re: SACRED Protocol (long!)
> >From: "Marshall T. Rose" <[email protected]>
> >
> > > Actually Marshall, I think it is a good thing to run 
> SACRED on top of
> > > BEEP. However, I also do believe that it should be possible to run
> > > SACRED on top of other protocols as well,
> >
> >everything has a cost. by mandating
> 
> 
> It is possible that the import of Marshall's response does 
> not adequately 
> register with some participants.  So it occurred to me that we should 
> consider this proposal for infinite portability, and apply it 
> to other venues.
> 
> For example, I have traveled to a few different countries and 
> I find all 
> those plug adapters and voltage differences to be quite irritating.
> 
> So I think we should mandate that every electrical device 
> must a) work on 
> all the different global voltages and b) have a plug that 
> works in all the 
> different global sockets.  Nevermind the increased cost.  
> Just the idea of 
> one of those bulbous plugs on every device is delightful to consider.
> 
> In fact, this seemed like such an appealing solution that it 
> occurred to me 
> we should go further.
> 
> We should mandate that every automobile be made legal for 
> every driving 
> situation in the world.  I have no idea what this will mean 
> under the hood, 
> but am most intrigued at the idea of having the driver's 
> steering wheel and 
> other driving controls able to move from one side of the car 
> to the other.
> 
> So,
> 
> I hope, like me, everyone is shaking their head by now, 
> because that really 
> is the nature of the proposal that has been put forward.  It is 
> well-intentioned, but it carries unacceptable costs, for the 
> specification 
> effort, for the development effort, and for the poor end-user.
> 
> d/
> 
> 
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