Re: potential new wg - curdle...

Peter Gutmann <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.saag,gmane.ietf.secsh
Message-ID <9A043F3CF02CD34C8E74AC1594475C73F4B6AA52@uxcn10-5.UoA.auckland.ac.nz>
Mark D. Baushke <[email protected]> writes:

>I am not sure that first_kex_packet_follows would guess properly because the
>first listed algorithm must be the same on both sides and I am not sure that
>will be true very often given the number of different host key algorithms
>that exist.

How widely is first_kex_packet_follows used in practice?  That's another thing
I'd like to see deprecated in any future changes (see the SimpleSSH proposal I
mentioned a week or so back), it vastly complicates the handshake when you
have to guess at things and potentially roll back to the previous state and
try again.  Best-case if you've got identical, identially-configured
implementations at both ends you save a whole RTT, but more common case you
have a lot of extra complexity and overhead as you roll back from the
incorrectly-guessed keyex and try again.

Peter.
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