Re: Terrapin
Brian Pence <[email protected]> Wed, 27 Dec 2023 11:43:28 -0600
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--000000000000e29f31060d8156ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From the OpenSSH PROTOCOL document: 1.10 transport: strict key exchange extension OpenSSH supports a number of transport-layer hardening measures under a "strict KEX" feature. This feature is signalled similarly to the RFC8308 ext-info feature: by including a additional algorithm in the initial SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT kex_algorithms field. The client may append "[email protected]" to its kex_algorithms and the server may append "[email protected]". These pseudo-algorithms are only valid in the initial SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT and MUST be ignored if they are present in subsequent SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT packets. When an endpoint that supports this extension observes this algorithm name in a peer's KEXINIT packet, it MUST make the following changes to the protocol: a) During initial KEX, terminate the connection if any unexpected or out-of-sequence packet is received. This includes terminating the connection if the first packet received is not SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT. Unexpected packets for the purpose of strict KEX include messages that are otherwise valid at any time during the connection such as SSH2_MSG_DEBUG and SSH2_MSG_IGNORE. b) After sending or receiving a SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS message, reset the packet sequence number to zero. This behaviour persists for the duration of the connection (i.e. not just the first SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS). Brian Pence Celestial Software 901-283-1970 <http://voice.google.com/calls?a=3Dnc,%2B19012831970> http://www.celestialsoftware.net On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 9:08=E2=80=AFAM Brian Pence <bpence@celestialsoftwa= re.net> wrote: > And at least one claim that some implementations knew about this about a > month before public disclosure, so they were working on 'strict kex' for = a > while. > > This protocol vulnerability was pre-disclosed to us by Fabian B=C3=A4umer= , > Marcus Brinkmann, and J=C3=B6rg Schwenk, on 17 November 2023. For full de= tails > of their report, see their dedicated website about the Terrapin attack > <https://terrapin-attack.com/>. > > > Brian Pence > Celestial Software > 901-283-1970 <http://voice.google.com/calls?a=3Dnc,%2B19012831970> > http://www.celestialsoftware.net > > > On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 9:06=E2=80=AFAM Brian Pence <bpence@celestialsoft= ware.net> > wrote: > >> This also affects Maverick Synergy Java SSH API before 3.1.0-SNAPSHOT, >> Dropbear through 2022.83, Ssh before 5.1.1 in Erlang/OTP, PuTTY before >> 0.80, AsyncSSH before 2.14.2, golang.org/x/crypto before 0.17.0, libssh >> before 0.10.6, libssh2 through 1.11.0, Thorn Tech SFTP Gateway before 3.= 4.6, >> >> Then each of the 'fixed' packages will have some kind of documentation >> describing their use of 'strict kex' >> For example putty 0.80: >> >> https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/wishlist/vuln-terrapi= n.html >> >> To mitigate the vulnerability, the OpenSSH project has defined a SSH >> extension called 'strict KEX' (documented in their PROTOCOL >> <https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/src/usr.bin/ssh/PROTOCOL?rev=3DHEAD&content-= type=3Dtext/x-cvsweb-markup> document), >> which PuTTY 0.80 implements. >> >> >> >> >> Brian Pence >> Celestial Software >> 901-283-1970 <http://voice.google.com/calls?a=3Dnc,%2B19012831970> >> http://www.celestialsoftware.net >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 1:58=E2=80=AFAM Peter Gutmann <[email protected]= nd.ac.nz> >> wrote: >> >>> Brian Pence <[email protected]> writes: >>> >>> >Related publication at NIST: >>> https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2023-48795 >>> > >>> >Implementation versions that are identified as NOT VULNERABLE have all >>> >recently implemented "strict key exchange" >>> >>> Where are you seeing that? I can't find that text anywhere on the page=