Re: Congestion in M3UA/SUA and the use of the SCON

"Brian F. G. Bidulock" <[email protected]>
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Lincoln,

Oh, also MUST be included in the source and destination addresses of
the Registration Request, because you confused that one too.

I'm sorry but the concept of an SCCP-User that knows the point code of
every node in the SS7 network that it might want to send messages to,
except its own, is not a very useful one.

--brian

Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:                    (Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:58:47)
> Lincoln,
> 
> Read down just a couple paragraphs: (the section you quote is applicable
> to SCCP routing, not information delivered to the SCCP-User).
> 
> 3.10.2.2.  Address Indicator
> 
>    This parameter is needed for interworking with SS7 networks.  The
>    address indicator specifies what address parameters are actually
>    received in the SCCP address from the SS7 network, or are to be
>    populated in the SCCP address when the message is sent into the SS7
>    network.  The value of the routing indicator needs to be taken into
>    account.  It is used in the ASP to SG direction.  For example, the PC
>    parameter is present in the destination address of the CLDT sent from
>    ASP->SG, but bit 2 is set to "0" meaning "do not populate this in the
>    SCCP called party address".  The effect is that the SG only uses the
>    PC to populate the MTP routing label DPC field, but does not include
>    it in the SCCP called party address.
> 
>    In the SG->ASP direction, the source address PC parameter is present
>    (PC of SS7 SEP).  However, this may have been populated from the OPC
>    in the received MTP routing label, not from the PC field in the SCCP
>    calling party address.  In this case, bit 2 = "0" denotes that.  The
>    AI gives further instructions to the SG how and when to populate the
>    SCCP addresses; in the SG->ASP direction, the AI gives information to
>    the ASP as to what was actually present in the received SCCP
>    addresses.
> 
> If this is so unclear that you do not understand that both the source
> and destination addresses always have PC populated when interworking
> with SS7 (just bit 2 of the address indicator set to indicate whether
> it came from the MTP routing label or the calling or called part
> addresses), we need to add to the SCCP I-G that when the CLDT, CLDR,
> CORE, COAK, COREF is sent from an SG to an ASP that one of a PC,
> Hostname, or IP address MUST be included in both the destination and
> source addresses.
> 
> --brian
> 
> Haresign Lincoln wrote:                      (Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:51:51)
> > Brian,
> > 
> > The result of the GTT is a point code/SSN.  However this information
> > does not need to be forwarded to the ASP in the address field.  A CLDT
> > message can arrive at the ASP with _NO_ DPC in the message anywhere.   
> > 
> > Please refer to the defintion for source address in section 3.10.2:
> > 
> >    -  Global Title (e.g., E.164 number) + optional PC and/or SSN, SSN
> >       may be zero, when routing is done on Global Title
> > 
> >    -  SSN (non-zero) + optional PC and/or Global Title, when routing is
> >       done on PC + SSN.  The PC is mandatory in the source address when
> >       sending from SGP to ASP, and in the destination address when
> >       sending from ASP to SGP to reach the SS7 SEP.
> > 
> >    -  Hostname + optional SSN, when routing is done by Hostname
> > 
> >    -  SSN (non-zero) and optional IP address (IPv4 or IPv6) when routing
> >       is done on IP address + SSN
> > 
> > It is _NOT_ required that the SG provide the PC/SSN in a CLDT message.
> > Therefore, if the ASP wants to implement the OPTIONAL SCON procedure,
> > and it is working with global titles, we need to modify the SCON message
> > requirements.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Lincoln
> > 
> 
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