Re: AS, RK , RC concepts in SE model

Ilie Glib <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.sigtran
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hello Brian,

in my view this is a considerable change of AS concept. In SIGTRAN an
AS is an application server sitting behind its ASPs/IPSPs. Now you say
an AS is a bidirectional signalling relation and not an Application
Server.

The same goes for RK,  RK1 cannot be the same as RK2, because Routing
Key defines where messages go, it defines routing.

In my view the concept of Application Server cannot be dependent on
the exchange model used. How can we make the main SIGTRAN concept
dependent on the communication model?

Any other opinions?

Regards

Ilie

On 12/6/05, Brian F. G. Bidulock <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ilie,
>
> For SE AS1==AS2 (and RK1==RK2).
>
> For DE AS1!=AS2 (and RK1!=RK2).
>
> You need double the AS, RC and RKs in DE as you do in SE.
>
> Because they can't relay, IPSPs only need 1 AS betwixt them.
>
> --brian
>
> Ilie Glib wrote:                              (Tue, 06 Dec 2005 11:40:47)
> > Hello Folks,
> >
> > According to the current definition of AS and RK there is 1:1
> > relationship between them. The AS is an Application Server that
> > process traffic routed according to the routing key, that is it
> > process traffic that comes from unidirectional signalling relations,
> > it does not process traffic that goes in the opposite direction, it
> > generates traffic in the opposite direction.
> >
> > For example
> > The RK1=(OPC=2-200, DPC=2-100) is different from RK2=(OPC=2-100,
> > DPC=2-200). Each RK defines its own AS, in this case AS1, which
> > corresponds to RK1, sits in 2-200 signalling point and AS2, which
> > corresponds to RK2, is in 2-100, and each AS has its own RK.
> >
> > Could you please clarify
> >
> > Q1: What is correct 1) or 2)
> > 1) In the described above configuration it is one AS = AS1=AS2, or otherwise
> > 2) AS1 and AS2 are different ASes
> >
> > I assume 2) is correct. Then Routing Context RC1 corresponding to RK1
> > is assigned in AS2 and Routing Context RC2 corresponding to RK2 is
> > assigned in AS1. RC1 and RC2 are different but may be the same by
> > chance.
> >
> > Routing Context parameter is mandatory in SUA traffic messages.
> >
> > In case of SE model could you please clarify
> >
> > Q2: What Routing Context values will be used in traffic messages
> > between AS1 and AS2?
> > Q3: Does it depend on the direction of the message?
> >
> > Q4: When RC1 is used and when RC2?
> >
> > Q5: what RC shall be used by response messages?
> >
> >
> > Thank you in advance
> >
> > Ilie
> >
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> --
> Brian F. G. Bidulock
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