Re: ASP Capabilities value 0x2 of interworking field

"Brian F. G. Bidulock" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.sigtran
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Tolga,

Tolga Asveren wrote:                                                                 (Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:08:36)
> >
> > No, not all SUA SGPs host applications.  Just as not all STPs
> > support SCCP users.
> [TOLGA]The point is that they *CAN*, and I think you agree with this. I am
> not saying that all SUA entities MUST host local applications but they are
> able to do so.
Theoretically maybe, in practice they don't.

> >
> > No, not all SUA SGPs support relaying.  Just as not all STPs act
> > as an SCCP relay.
> [TOLGA]Again the point is that they are able to do so based on the
> specification.
Again, in practice they don't.  SCCP relay points are normally interior
to a network, not at the edge.

> >
> > You are still thinking MTP.  Consider that you have an all-IP network with
> > not SS7 network interworking from the perspective of SCCP and SUA:  Where
> > are you going to place your GTT so that you can administrate your network?
> [TOLGA]SGPs.
Placing GTT at the edge of the network is not practical.


> >
> > Your first diagram would restrict GTT to be located at a node
> > supporting SS7
> > network interworking, the SGP.  In an all-IP network there is no
> > need for an
> > SGP, so that configuration is too restrictive.
> [TOLGA]A SGP does not need to have SS7 interface. You put it there, if you
> need to acces conventional SS7 network.
So in M3UA what is an SGP with no SS7 interface?  An IPSP that supports
relaying?

> >
> > What SUA does is permit the relaying capability to be added to any node in
> > the network (including ASP2 in your diagram below), allowing
> > flexible placement
> > of the GTT function within the SUA network.
> [TOLGA]I am not sure that it is just GTT based routing. It seems that 1.4.6
> is speaking of pure PC+SSN based relaying as well -where a node receives a
> message with destination address PC+SSN and relays it-.

That's why we called it AMF instead of GTT.  But AMF serves the same role as
GTT and GTT can in fact be the implementation of the AMF.

--brian

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