Re: AS concepts and Relay in SUA and M3UA

Ilie Glib <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.sigtran
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Brian,

well, why RFC does not crarify it?

Ilie

On 12/20/05, Brian F. G. Bidulock <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ilie,
>
> It does not say that the SGP cannot have a different AS Table per
> association.
>
> --brian
>
> Ilie Glib wrote:                                                      (Tue, 20 Dec 2005 14:51:12)
> > Brian
> >
> > what you say (RC values must be unique per AS within IPSP - IPSP
> > relation and SGP-ASP relation) MUST be clarified in both SUA and M3UA
> > RFCs.
> >
> > Currently the RFCs do not define exactly the scope of uniqueness of RC values.
> >
> > In fact they do and for instance SUA RFC says in Chapter 1.2 Terminology
> >
> >    Routing Context - An Application Server Process may be configured to
> >    process traffic within more than one Application Server.  In this
> >    case, the Routing Context parameter is exchanged between the SGP and
> >    the ASP (or between two ASPs), identifying the relevant Application
> >    Server.  From the perspective of an SGP/ASP, the Routing Context
> >    uniquely identifies the range of traffic associated with a particular
> >    Application Server, which the ASP is configured to receive.  There is
> >    a 1:1 relationship between a Routing Context value and a Routing Key
> >    within an AS.  Therefore the Routing Context can be viewed as an
> >    index into an AS Table containing the AS Routing Keys.
> >
> > The last sentence is especially interesting and in fact backs my
> > statement that a Signalling Process shall have as many RCs as there
> > are remote SUA peers (ASes) it serves.
> > One could draw a similar conclusion from M3UA definitions.
> >
> > Ilie
> >
> > On 12/20/05, Brian F. G. Bidulock <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Ilie,
> > >
> > > No, RC assignment is no different than M3UA: it only needs to uniquely
> > > identify a traffic flow within an association.  When there is only one
> > > traffic flow per association, RC can be trivial (i.e. 0).
> > >
> > > Nevertheless, the sender of ASP Active need not include RC, ASP Active
> > > Ack has a mandatory RC value which both peers can populate every subsequent
> > > message requiring an RC.
> > >
> > > --brian
> > >
> > > Ilie Glib wrote:                                                      (Tue, 20 Dec 2005 14:19:18)
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > > According to SUA RFC the RC value shall be unique (at least) within a
> > > > Signalling Process, thus one RC value per "signalling relation" is
> > > > needed. Consequently a Signalling Process shall have as many RCs as
> > > > there are remote SUA peers (ASes). So one value is certainly not
> > > > enough.
> > > >
> > > > Ilie
> > > >
> > > > On 12/20/05, Brian F. G. Bidulock <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Ilie,
> > > > >
> > > > > There is little difference between RC=0 in every message and an
> > > > > optional Routing Context parameter.
> > > > >
> > > > > --brian
> > > > >
> > > > > Ilie Glib wrote:                                                      (Tue, 20 Dec 2005 10:06:15)
> > > > > > Hello Brian,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FYI the RC is mandatory parameter in SUA traffic messages.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ilie
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 12/20/05, Brian F. G. Bidulock <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Stanislav,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Stanislav Ivanovich wrote:                                                       (Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:20:21)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >    Brian,
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You are never required to assign RC to traffic flows between any SUA entities.
> > > > > > > When no RC is assigned, and the association handles only one traffic flow,
> > > > > > > it is optional in all messages.  Don't use it if you don't see a use for it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Ilie
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Brian F. G. Bidulock
> > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > http://www.openss7.org/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Ilie
> > >
> > > --
> > > Brian F. G. Bidulock
> > > [email protected]
> > > http://www.openss7.org/
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ilie
>
> --
> Brian F. G. Bidulock
> [email protected]
> http://www.openss7.org/
>


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Ilie
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