RE: Upper boundary of Adaptation Layers

Stanislav Ivanovich <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.sigtran
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Barry,
   
  Which entitiy controls the start and removal of application from traffic? Is it MTP/SCCP or User Parts/SCCP-users?
   
  When for example SCCP-user requests N-STATE_request which is to be translated into ASP-INACTIVE who controls the AS state? Is it SUA "layer" or SCCP-user application?
   
  regards/ Stanislav
   
  

Barry Nagelberg <[email protected]> wrote:
  Ilie,

Your summary of the current architecture is mostly correct.

The most important part of your summary is that "SIGTRAN supports existing SCCP/MTP users without them being aware of
the fact that SIGTRAN is used for the transport of messages."

This is the entire reason for the existance of SIGTRAN. SIGTRAN is a bridging mechanism designed to allow legacy
SCCP/MTP3 users to take advantage of cheap IP transport without having to modify their legacy protocol stacks.

Any attempt to make SCCP/MTP3 users aware of SIGTRAN would make SIGTRAN almost worthless.

Barry Nagelberg
Adax, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On
Behalf Of Ilie Glib
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:07 AM
To: SIGTRAN
Subject: [Sigtran] Upper boundary of Adaptation Layers


Hello Folks,

In my current understanding of the SIGTRAN:

- SUA and M3UA RFCs define the primitives of the adaptation layers
towards their users in Section "1.6.1. Definition of the upper
boundary".
SUA and M3UA RFCs simply refer to ITU-T and ANSI standards for the
complete definition of the primitives towards the users, therefore
SIGTRAN supports existing
SCCP/MTP users without them being aware of the fact that SIGTRAN is
used for the transport of messages.
SIGTRAN concepts and the corresponding entities/objects like AS, RK,
RC, IPSP, ASP, and SGP are not part of the currently standardized
upper boundary of M3UA (SUA).
Thus today's SIGTRAN users do not know anything about those concepts.

Can you please confirm this view or tell me if I'm mislead by my
interpretation ?

Is their any attempt in SIGTRAN WG to define an extended upper
boundary for xxUA that gives the option of managing entities like AS,
RK, RC, IPSP, ASP, and SGP to xxUA users and what are the enhanced
services expected from adaptation layers ?

Thank you in advance

--
Ilie

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