RE: M3UA notify message

Brian,

As long as it is not an ASPSM/ASPTM procedure, it is fine. I probably was
not careful when using the term "M3UA procedures" because it includes pretty
much everything.

BTW, I still wouldn't call it "M3UA procedure on each SGP", because SSNM is
not sent independently by each SGP when status of a destination in SS7
network changes. It is supposed to be sent only once, but this is besides
the point for this thread.

In any case, it is good that there is finally consensus regarding that
ASPSM/ASPTM procedures and associated state machines being independent on
each SGP.

  Tolga

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian F. G. Bidulock [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:34 PM
> To: Tolga Asveren
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Sigtran] M3UA notify message
>
>
> Tolga,
>
> By an SGP, making it an "M3UA procedure on each SGP".
>
> --brian
>
> Tolga Asveren wrote:
>    (Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:10:02)
> > Yes, SSNM will be sent per SG.
> >
> > BTW, my messages from a few hours ago started just to arrive, not in the
> > order I sent them.
> >
> >    Tolga
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brian F. G. Bidulock [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:26 PM
> > > To: Tolga Asveren
> > > Cc: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [Sigtran] M3UA notify message
> > >
> > >
> > > Tolga,
> > >
> > > BTW it is used for sending SNMM from an SGP: another M3UA
> > > procedure at an SGP.
> > >
> > > --brian
> > >
> > > Tolga Asveren wrote:
> > >    (Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:36:22)
> > > > Brian,
> > > >
> > > > Please show where in the specification it says that ASPTM/ASPSM
> > > relationship
> > > > is between ASP and SG?
> > > >
> > > >    Thanks,
> > > >    Tolga
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Brian F. G. Bidulock [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:50 PM
> > > > > To: Tolga Asveren
> > > > > Cc: [email protected]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Sigtran] M3UA notify message
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Tolga,
> > > > >
> > > > > Tolga Asveren wrote:
> > > > >    (Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:28:21)
> > > > > > Barry,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let me retry to explain my position:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Coordination of AS/ASP is necessary to create the unique
> > > SPMC view. This
> > > > > > does not mean that the coordinated state should be used for
> > > > > M3UA procedures
> > > > > > on each SGP. Each SGP should maintain its own staet machine
> > > from ASP/SGP
> > > > > > procedures point of view.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Your statements conflict with the consensus that went into
> > > > > the RFC as upheld by the mailing list discussion on the matter.
> > > > >
> > > > > --brian
> > > > >
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