RE: M2PA Alignment Clarification

"Davidson, Mark" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.sigtran
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Brian,

I agree that if ALL senders wait for the last LSP to be acked by SCTP
before sending LSR/DATA then the problem is fixed (though I dislike
munging the layers in this way).  But the original problem is one for
the receiver, not the sender.  I.e., the receiver cannot guarantee that
the far end follows this procedure.  Changing what is sent, doesn't help
guarantee what is received.  We don't get to assume the same vendor on
both ends.  So the problem remains.

-Mark Davidson

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian F. G. Bidulock [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 7:06 PM
To: Newman, Catherine J
Cc: [email protected]; Erickson, Mark
Subject: Re: [Sigtran] M2PA Alignment Clarification

Catherine,

Newman, Catherine J wrote:                (Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:38:40)
> Brian,
> 
> I'm not sure I understand your suggestion...
> There is no indication to M2PA of remote SCTP acknowledgment, and no 
> M2PA acknowledgement for LSSUs (even T7 does not apply).

All implementations are capable of providing this indication.  When
proving messages are sent they are delivered to SCTP where they consume
send buffer space.  When they are acknowledged by the SCTP peer, their
space is added back to the available send buffer space.
The sending application can always check when they have all been
acknowledged, by checking the available send buffer.  This can be done
most expediently when T4 expires.

SS7 MTP2 does not presume an implementation.  SCTP has only one physical
wire (per interface) also.  SCTP choses which messages are sent from
which streams.  So can an implementation of SS7.  MTP2 provides guidance
in this area: it says that LSSU take priority over DATA to the wire.
Using the buffer technique above, you can restore MTP2 prioritization of
messages to the wire by not sending the SLTM until the proving messages
have been acknowledged.

--brian

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Brian F. G. Bidulock
[email protected]
http://www.openss7.org/

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