Re: Alternative to M3UA HeartBeat

Chris Benson <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.sigtran
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Moloud,

Although other transports are technically allowed, in practice, 
M3UA is (always?) implemented over SCTP, which *does* have its 
own heartbeat mechanism.

I thus consider your question moot.  As you have probably
noted, RFC 4666 only "recommends" that M3UA BEAT be used
over transport layers without heartbeats.  It is thus true
that one could use a different transport layer (without its
own hearbeat mechanism) and not be able to determine quickly 
that an M3UA peer has "disappeared".  In certain circumstances,
the determination can be made (e.g. waiting for ASPUP Ack),
but in other circumstances (normal active, idle), the 
determination cannot be made by M3UA alone.  So it isn't
a good idea to implement the combination of "M3UA-no-BEATs"
with "transport-no-heartbeats".

With thanks, from Chris Benson.

On Tue, 25 May 2010, Moloud Mousavi wrote:

>>  Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 12:03:53 -0400
>>  From: Moloud Mousavi <[email protected]>
>>  To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>  Subject: [Sigtran] Alternative to M3UA HeartBeat
>>  
>>  Hi,
>>  
>>  RFC considers M3UA beat optional; it's needed over transport layers without their own heartbeat mechanism.
>>  My question is: If M3UA beat is off while running over a transport layer without such a mechanism, what would be the system behavior? Does it stay in a wrong status forever or is there an alternative to prevent such a case?
>>  
>>  
>>  Thanks,
>>  Moloud
>>  
>>  
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