Re: A comment on draft-ietf-simple-chat-12

Gonzalo Camarillo <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.simple
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi,

right, this sounds more like an identifier, because claiming that a
participant will be able to determine your identity when you are an
anonymous user is not clear at all.

In any case, I am OK with not specifying which exact identifier will be
used. However, the requirement should be clear that the vagueness was
introduced on purpose. An extra sentence should be enough for the reader
to understand what the requirement actually means.

Thanks,

Gonzalo


On 20/01/2012 5:05 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Further: I'd encourage you to use the word "identifier" because
> "identity" is vague and overloaded.
> 
> On 1/20/12 5:54 AM, Miguel A. Garcia wrote:
>> Gonzalo,
>>
>> The requirement talks on purpose about "identities" with the ambiguity
>> that the word "identities" carry, meaning that we don't really specify
>> whether those identities are SIP identities, tel URL identities,
>> nicknames, or social security identities :-)
>>
>> Then requirements 5 and 7 expand a bit more on the type of identities
>> that must be supported by the system.
>>
>> So, to answer your question, Req-2 deliberately leaves unspecified the
>> type of identity of a sender and recipients, since this will depend on a
>> number of factors, to mention a few:
>> - whether nicknames are supported/used.
>> - whether anonymity is requested.
>> - The type of real identity used by the user.
>>
>> I still leaning towards leaving the requirement written as it is now.
>>
>> /Miguel
>>
>> On 20/01/2012 13:27, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> a quick comment on draft-ietf-simple-chat-12 before I start its IETF LC:
>>>
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-simple-chat-12
>>>
>>> Requirement 2 says the following:
>>>
>>>   REQ-2:  A conference participant must be able to determine the
>>>             identities of the sender and recipient of the received IMs.
>>>
>>> A few lines below, requirements 5 and 7 talk about participants having
>>> nicknames, pseudonyms, real identities, and anonymous identities.
>>>
>>> What would be a good way to rephrase requirement 2 so that it is clear
>>> what type of identity it refers to?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Gonzalo
>>>
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