Re: XMPP servedr based presence (new subject)

18 okt 2012 kl. 20:42 skrev Peter Saint-Andre <[email protected]>:

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> On 10/18/12 12:01 PM, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
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>> 18 okt 2012 kl. 18:43 skrev Paul Kyzivat <[email protected]>:
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>>> I will observe that some things are, or can be, UI issues or API 
>>> issues rather than protocol issues. For better or worse IETF 
>>> doesn't do UI and API. So it's important to draw the lines 
>>> carefully. Or establish a partnership with another SDO that does 
>>> those things, like W3C, as is going on with RTCWEB/WEBRTC.
>> 
>> Absolutely. But the requirement to be able to integrate with a UI
>> may affect the protocol solution.
>> 
>> XMPP has this problem. The XMPP server is not aware of the
>> presence, it just routes stanzas. Without caching stanzas or doing
>> something else, it is just not possible to create an API into the
>> server and get the presence of a particular JID.
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> Olle, that statement has no basis in reality. Every XMPP server
> implementation on the planet is aware of the presence state for each
> Jabber ID under its control.

Thanks for the feedback. THat feature was not very stable when I 
implemented large scale XMPP a few years ago. Can I change the
state in the server as well nowadays?

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