Re: I-D Action:draft-rosenberg-sip-target-uri-delivery-00.txt

No, I think we'd need to allow for configuration to be a valid use case 
for addition of the target parameter as well. Shida makes a fine point 
and there is no reason to exclude it.

-Jonathan R.

DRAGE, Keith (Keith) wrote:
> I believe the 800 use case is still a valid problem that has to be
> solved.
> 
> Do we have another way of using History-Info that would cover this
> specific case. For example, do we just need an extension to the
> Voicemail URI RFC?
> 
> regards
> 
> Keith 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Jonathan Rosenberg
>> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:27 PM
>> To: Shida Schubert
>> Cc: [email protected] List
>> Subject: Re: [Sip] I-D 
>> Action:draft-rosenberg-sip-target-uri-delivery-00.txt
>>
>> Actually I removed the 800 use case because it doesn't work 
>> so well with the proposed mechanism. The reason is that, this 
>> draft is very crisp about how you determine if a URI is a 
>> 'target' or not - based on a REGISTRATION. However, for 8xx 
>> numbers, my assumption is that they would typically be 
>> translated to a non-8xx number by some other configured 
>> translation on the server, not via a registration.
>>
>> For example, a server might have a config like this:
>>
>> 1-800-555-1212:
>>    replace with: [email protected]
>>
>> and then individual UAs register as 'directory'.
>>
>> In reality this was a problem in the UA loose route draft 
>> too; its really hard to programatically determine that 
>> something is a target vs. 
>> not a target.
>>
>> -Jonathan R.
>>
>>
>> Shida Schubert wrote:
>>> Jonathan;
>>>
>>>  Thanks for writing up the draft.
>>>
>>>  There was a use-case for freephone number mentioned in 
>> section 2.7 of 
>>> loose-route draft which no longer exists in this draft.
>>>
>>>  I do recall that in section 2.7 of loose-route you expressed that 
>>> freephone number is just another form of alias, so I am 
>> assuming that 
>>> is the reason you removed the text OR was there any 
>> technical reason 
>>> why you removed the use-case?
>>>
>>>  If there is no technical reason behind removing the text, 
>> could you 
>>> add its use for freephone number as a use-case either as a separate 
>>> sub-section or as part of alias use-case..
>>>
>>>  Thanks & Regards
>>>   Shida
>>>
>>> On 27-Oct-08, at 1:30 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
>>>> directories.
>>>>
>>>>     Title           : Delivery of Request-URI Targets to 
>> User Agents
>>>>     Author(s)       : J. Rosenberg
>>>>     Filename        : 
>> draft-rosenberg-sip-target-uri-delivery-00.txt
>>>>     Pages           : 12
>>>>     Date            : 2008-10-26
>>>>
>>>> When a Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) proxy receives a request 
>>>> targeted at a URI identifying a user or resource it is responsible 
>>>> for, the proxy translates the URI to a registered contact 
>> URI of an 
>>>> agent representing that user or resource.  In the process, the 
>>>> original URI is removed from the request.  Numerous use cases have 
>>>> arisen which require this information to be delivered to the user 
>>>> agent.  This document describes these use cases and defines an 
>>>> extension to the History-Info header field which allows it 
>> to be used 
>>>> to support those cases.
>>>>
>>>> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
>>>>
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rosenberg-sip-target-uri-de
>>>> livery-00.txt
>>>>
>>>>
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