Re: Review of draft-kuthan-sip-derive-00

Adam Roach <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.sip
Message-ID <[email protected]>
I'll repeat the most important argument from my previous email, which 
you elided in your response: You're smart. If someone offers you enough 
money to make this work in your product, you'll figure it out.

/a

On 11/20/08 3:58 PM, Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Adam Roach [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 3:47 PM
>>
>> But those B2BUAs are all in the same administrative domain.
>>     
>
> Unfortunately they're not.
> Alice calls Benny; Alice is in foo.com, Benny is in bar.com; foo.com b2bua sends it to pwned.com, which sends it to bar.com.  Benny then sends an out-of-dialog Subscribe to [email protected].  There's no guarantee it will go through pwned.com on its way back there.
> But anyway even just hitting a different b2bua at pwned.com will make it unlikely to work.  :(
>
>
>   
>> Given that
>> fact, there are solutions to the problem, such as synchronized minimal
>> state
>>     
>
> Oh yeah that's fun.  We're nuts, not crazy. :)
>
>
>   
>> -- or, preferably, stateless reversible dialog identifier
>> transformations.
>>     
>
> We tried that - gets too big. (did I mention many devices appear to have finite header string length limits?)
> Since this problem at some level is that the From-URI is being used instead of contact-uri, if you'd prefer we can also just munge the From-URI to identify the specific b2bua. Yuck. And it won't work if there are 2 pwned.com transit domains. And down the rabbit-hole we go...
>
> Or we can go do this little thing like Session-ID. :)
>
> -hadriel
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