Re: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4028 (1681)

"Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)" <[email protected]>
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Pl. see inline ...


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	From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Muthu Arul
	Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:27 AM
	To: Brett Tate
	Cc: SIP
	Subject: Re: [Sip] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4028 (1681)
	
	
	If the From tag doesn't change, can the UAS retrain the same To
tag as well? 
	[Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)]  When can UAS retain to-tag, when it
is rejecting *resubmitted* request?
	 
	 If the new INVITE reaches the UAS before the ACK for the
previous INVITE, what should the UAS do? 
	[Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)] Since the resubmitted request will not
have a to-tag, even if Call-Id and from-tag is same, it wont match any
ongoing transaction and so should be treated as a new request. 
	 
	Should it reject the new INVITE and expect the UAC to retry
again?
	
	I thought it would have been much simpler had the From/To tag
changed b/w the INVITE messages..
	[Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)]  It would have been better, but it is
not illegal for Call-id + from-tag to not change. Besides, it is an
example and should be treated as such.. 
	
	thanks,
	Muthu
	
	
	On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:55 AM, Brett Tate
<[email protected]> wrote:
	

		Based upon the following snippet, my understanding is
that RFC 4028 is correctly following the SHOULD.
		
		RFC 3261 section 8.1.3.5 snippet:
		
		"In all of the above cases, the request is retried by
creating a new request with the appropriate modifications.  This new
request constitutes a new transaction and SHOULD have the same value of
the Call-ID, To, and From of the previous request, but the CSeq should
contain a new sequence number that is one higher than the previous. With
other 4xx responses, including those yet to be defined, a retry may or
may not be possible depending on the method and the use case."
		

		> -----Original Message-----
		> From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dale
		> Worley
		> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 4:14 PM
		> To: SIP
		> Subject: Re: [Sip] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4028
(1681)
		>
		> On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 13:03 -0600, Robert Sparks
wrote:
		> > I agree - the example is not flawed (at least in the
way the errata
		> > reports).
		> >
		> > Muthu seems to troubled by the reuse of the call-id
and from tag when
		> > the initial transaction didn't create a dialog.
		> > While doing so is not required by the specification,
nothing makes it
		> > illegal either.
		>
		> Are we agreed that "doing so is not required by the
specification"?  In
		> RFC 3261, requests that are retried after 401, 407,
413, 415, 416, and
		> 420 responses are required to have the same from-tag
as the original
		> request.  Is 422 different?
		>
		> Dale
		>
		>
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