Re: francois' comments and why RFC4474 not used in the field

Hadriel Kaplan <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.sip
Message-ID <E6C2E8958BA59A4FB960963D475F7AC31504EB0B83@mail>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dean
> Willis
> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 12:02 AM
> 
> If I understand the argument, extending the d-w-s-i-m approach to non-
> DTLS media legitimizes the obfuscation of the one media identifier we
> do have -- the IP address. Some people seem to find this unacceptable.

If you're not using dtls-srtp, you don't have media identity - even with 4474.  You're not losing it, because you didn't have it to begin with.  That's the point I've been trying to make, anyway.  An IP Address is not a media identifier.  It can be easily/trivially spoofed, and it can be less-trivially intercepted.  In that respect, sans dtls-srtp, 4474 is an Emperor with no clothes.  (no knock on 4474, because it never claimed to provide media identity)

For example, see:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kaplan-sip-baiting-attack-02

-hadriel
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