Re: francois' comments and why RFC4474 not used in the field

"Dan Wing" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.sip
Message-ID <[email protected]>
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Roach [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 7:18 PM
> To: Dan Wing
> Cc: 'Anthony D Pike'; 'Cullen Jennings'; 'Jon Peterson'; 
> [email protected]; 'Francois Audet'; 'DRAGE, Keith (Keith)'; 'Dean Willis'
> Subject: Re: [Sip] francois' comments and why RFC4474 not 
> used in the field
> 
> Dan Wing wrote: 
> 
> 		-----Original Message-----
> 		From: Adam Roach [mailto:[email protected]] 
> 		...
> 		Dan Wing wrote: 
> 		
> 			On SIP networks today we have 
> intermediaries modifying 
> 		SDP in transit.  It's
> 			happening now, on real networks.  I am really 
> 		interested in preserving
> 			identity over those networks.
> 		
> 		...
> 		
> 		I think it's important to distinguish among 
> three classes of 
> 		solutions in this space:
> 		
> 		1.	Identity that works through existing B2BUAs
> 		2.	Identity that might not work through 
> existing B2BUAs, 
> 		but that B2BUAs can be modified to work with
> 		3.	Identity that precludes the presence of B2BUAs
> 		
> 		...
> 		
> 		At the risk of suggesting compromise, I'll 
> point out that 
> 		there *is* a way to mutually satisfy those 
> people who reject 
> 		solutions in class #1 and those people who 
> reject solutions 
> 		in class #3. I suspect that useful progress 
> lies in that 
> 		direction only.
> 		    
> 
> 	
> 	Agreed.  And I also prefer #2.
> 
> 
> 
> Ah, I misunderstood your earlier statement --  "I am really 
> interested in preserving identity over [SIP networks today 
> with intermediaries that modify SDP in transit]" -- to mean 
> that the intermediaries were not to be modified. So we're 
> really both talking about SIP networks for some upcoming 
> tomorrow, not SIP networks today.

I'm talking about SIP networks that adjust SDP, and which
can be convinced to pass along some additional SIP headers.

I have been told, in the past, that I'm having a pipe dream
when I suggest that.

-d


> Good. I think that leaves a lot of common ground to work with.
> 
> /a
> 
> 

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