Re: Reuse of Sip Call-Id question...

Martin Larochelle <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.sip
Message-ID <[email protected]>
This is right, although it does not mean that each call attempt must use a
new call-id.You wrote that "We have customer UAs that are reusing the same
Sip Call-Id for multiple call attempts into our network.", if by attempt,
you mean trying to make a call that fails with a error that can be retried
(as 407, 422) then in that case, it is acceptable to use the same call-id (
with an incremented C-Seq and empty to-tag)

-- 
Martin Larochelle
Software Architect


On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Attila Sipos
<[email protected]>wrote:

>  you will get the same response here as on sip-core.
>
> SIP call-id should be unique for each call, it cannot be re-used
>
> Regards,
>
> Attila
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Cahall,
> Glenn
> *Sent:* 04 June 2009 17:46
> *To:* [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]
> *Subject:* [Sip] Reuse of Sip Call-Id question...
>
>  Folks,
>
> I work for a VoIP company, Level3 Communications, and have been doing some
> research on the internet about
>
> a specific condition that has arisen here dealing with the Sip protocol.
> Your names came up during my research.
>
> Was hoping I could get some feedback about the reuse of Sip Call-Id.
>
> We have customer UAs that are reusing the same Sip Call-Id for multiple
> call attempts into our network.
>
> After reviewing the Sip RFC 3261, both myself and my team concluded that
> this was a clear violation of the spec.  based
>
> on the following verbiage...
>
> 8.1.1.4 Call-ID
>
>    The Call-ID header field acts as a unique identifier to group
>
>    together a series of messages.  It MUST be the same for all requests
>
>    and responses sent by either UA in a dialog.  It SHOULD be the same
>
>    in each registration from a UA.
>
>    In a new request created by a UAC outside of any dialog, the Call-ID
>
>    header field MUST be selected by the UAC as a globally unique
>
>    identifier over space and time unless overridden by method-specific
>
>    behavior.  All SIP UAs must have a means to guarantee that the Call-
>
>    ID header fields they produce will not be inadvertently generated by
>
>    any other UA.  Note that when requests are retried after certain
>
>  However, some voice engineers are stating that the definition of
> “globally unique over time and space”  means only during the
>
> context of a given call.  Therefore, once this context is over....Sip
> Call-Id can in fact be reused in the very next context.
>
>  What is your take on this?
>
>  Thanks,
>
> Glenn E. Cahall
>
> Sr. Architect
>
> Level3 Communications
>
>
>
> .
>
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