Re: Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format
"PELSEMAKER Eric" <[email protected]> Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:34:44 +0100
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Hi all, In TISPAN TS 183 043 V2.3.1 annex-E, one can find a description of the sip based overlap sending procedures that are defined for PES-endpoint and PES-access point. Kr, Eric Pelsemaker -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: donderdag 7 januari 2010 21:00 To: [email protected] Subject: Sip Digest, Vol 65, Issue 2 If you have received this digest without all the individual message attachments you will need to update your digest options in your list subscription. To do so, go to https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip Click the 'Unsubscribe or edit options' button, log in, and set "Get MIME or Plain Text Digests?" to MIME. You can set this option globally for all the list digests you receive at this point. Send Sip mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Sip digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit (Sreerekha Shenoy (sresheno)) 2. Re: Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format? (Christer Holmberg) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:50:59 +0530 From: "Sreerekha Shenoy (sresheno)" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Hadi, I could see that RFC 3578 has some details of managing ISUP overlap signaling with SIP enbloc dialing. This RFC is more so for a PSTN-SIP gateway, not really a pure SIP endpoint though. Please let me know if you have got a chance to go through it to see if it helps in anyways. Thanks, Best Regards, Rekha -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Sip Digest, Vol 65, Issue 1 If you have received this digest without all the individual message attachments you will need to update your digest options in your list subscription. To do so, go to https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip Click the 'Unsubscribe or edit options' button, log in, and set "Get MIME or Plain Text Digests?" to MIME. You can set this option globally for all the list digests you receive at this point. Send Sip mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Sip digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format? (hadi motamedi) 2. Re: Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format? (Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango - HCL at Cisco)) 3. Re: Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format? (hadi motamedi) 4. Re: Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format? (Vijay Tiwari) 5. Re: Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format? (hadi motamedi) 6. Re: Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format? (Vijay Tiwari) 7. Re: Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format? (Paul Kyzivat) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 06:11:52 +0000 From: hadi motamedi <[email protected]> Subject: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format? To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear All Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit format ? I mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as 6,6,5,9,9,8,3 but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite . Thank you in advance -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip/attachments/20100106/013e9e14/ attachment.htm> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:09:17 +0530 From: "Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango - HCL at Cisco)" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format? To: "hadi motamedi" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey Hadi, You could do this via KPML Subscription package. Send invite with just 6 and remaining digits throught NOTIFY. Thanks, Prasath ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of hadi motamedi Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format? Dear All Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit format ? I mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as 6,6,5,9,9,8,3 but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite . Thank you in advance -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip/attachments/20100106/e3f1ce01/ attachment.htm> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 06:54:54 +0000 From: hadi motamedi <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format? To: "Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango - HCL at Cisco)" <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango - HCL at Cisco) <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey Hadi, > > You could do this via KPML Subscription package. Send invite with just 6 > and remaining digits throught NOTIFY. > > Thanks, Prasath > > ------------------------------ > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *hadi > motamedi > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:42 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit > format? > > > Dear All > Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically > feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit format ? I > mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as 6,6,5,9,9,8,3 > but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite . > Thank you in advance > > > > > Sorry . Can you please do me favor and provide me with more details on this ? Thank you -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip/attachments/20100106/4410fa2c/ attachment.htm> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:29:03 +0530 From: Vijay Tiwari <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format? To: "Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango - HCL at Cisco)" <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello All this KPML subscription package used for DTMF digits not for invite number in request URI. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango - HCL at Cisco) <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey Hadi, > > You could do this via KPML Subscription package. Send invite with just 6 > and remaining digits throught NOTIFY. > > Thanks, Prasath > > ------------------------------ > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *hadi > motamedi > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:42 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit > format? > > > Dear All > Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically > feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit format ? I > mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as 6,6,5,9,9,8,3 > but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite . > Thank you in advance > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > Use [email protected] for questions on current sip > Use [email protected] for new developments on the application of sip > -- They can because they think they can. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip/attachments/20100106/dcf06327/ attachment.htm> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 07:08:27 +0000 From: hadi motamedi <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format? To: Vijay Tiwari <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Vijay Tiwari <[email protected]>wrote: > Hello All > > this KPML subscription package used for DTMF digits not for invite number > in request URI. > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango - HCL at > Cisco) <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hey Hadi, >> >> You could do this via KPML Subscription package. Send invite with just 6 >> and remaining digits throught NOTIFY. >> >> Thanks, Prasath >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of >> *hadi motamedi >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:42 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit >> format? >> >> >> Dear All >> Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically >> feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit format ? I >> mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as 6,6,5,9,9,8,3 >> but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite . >> Thank you in advance >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip >> This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol >> Use [email protected] for questions on current sip >> Use [email protected] for new developments on the application of sip >> > > > > -- > They can because they think they can. > > Sorry. You mean KPML cannot implement this scenario ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip/attachments/20100106/b0edfe74/ attachment.htm> ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 15:32:48 +0530 From: Vijay Tiwari <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format? To: hadi motamedi <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello all yes KPML is not implement into implement this scenario. its only for DTMF digits. Thanks Vijay On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:38 PM, hadi motamedi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Vijay Tiwari <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hello All >> >> this KPML subscription package used for DTMF digits not for invite number >> in request URI. >> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango - HCL >> at Cisco) <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hey Hadi, >>> >>> You could do this via KPML Subscription package. Send invite with just 6 >>> and remaining digits throught NOTIFY. >>> >>> Thanks, Prasath >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of >>> *hadi motamedi >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:42 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit >>> format? >>> >>> >>> Dear All >>> Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically >>> feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit format ? I >>> mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as 6,6,5,9,9,8,3 >>> but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite . >>> Thank you in advance >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip >>> This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol >>> Use [email protected] for questions on current sip >>> Use [email protected] for new developments on the application of sip >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> They can because they think they can. >> >> > > Sorry. You mean KPML cannot implement this scenario ? > > > -- They can because they think they can. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip/attachments/20100106/a711f518/ attachment.htm> ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 10:07:13 -0500 From: Paul Kyzivat <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format? To: Vijay Tiwari <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Vijay Tiwari wrote: > Hello all > > yes KPML is not implement into implement this scenario. its only for > DTMF digits. It was not *intended* for this, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be used for this purpose. However there is no standard defined for doing so. And its extremely unlikely that one would be defined, because it requires a different division of responsibility between components than the sip specs assume. Specifically, to do this, you have to turn the sip phone into a dumb device, akin to MGCP, with a master that does most of the work. You need to do this, because you must establish a session with *something* that will receive the digits, and then eventually decide when a full number has been entered, and then initiate a call. Thanks, Paul > Thanks > Vijay > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:38 PM, hadi motamedi <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Vijay Tiwari > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hello All > > this KPML subscription package used for DTMF digits not for > invite number in request URI. > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango > - HCL at Cisco) <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > > Hey Hadi, > > You could do this via KPML Subscription package. Send invite > with just 6 and remaining digits throught NOTIFY. > > Thanks, Prasath > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] > *On Behalf Of *hadi motamedi > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:42 AM > *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > *Subject:* [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in > one-by-one digit format? > > > Dear All > Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically > feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit > format ? I > mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as > 6,6,5,9,9,8,3 > but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite . > Thank you in advance > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > Use [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> for questions on > current sip > Use [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> for new > developments on the application of sip > > > > > -- > They can because they think they can. > > > > Sorry. You mean KPML cannot implement this scenario ? > > > > > > > -- > They can because they think they can. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > Use [email protected] for questions on current sip > Use [email protected] for new developments on the application of sip ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use [email protected] for questions on current sip Use [email protected] for new developments on the application of sip End of Sip Digest, Vol 65, Issue 1 ********************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:23:01 +0100 From: Christer Holmberg <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format? To: 'Paul Kyzivat' <[email protected]>, Vijay Tiwari <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <FF84A09F50A6DC48ACB6714F4666CC743C57135F96@ESESSCMS0354.eemea.ericsson. se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Are you referring to overlap dialling? One way is to send additional digits in subsequent INVITEs, which is described in RFC 3578. Another way is to send the additional digits using INFO, once the INVITE has reached the *something* Paul is referring to. Regards, Christer -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Kyzivat Sent: 6. tammikuuta 2010 17:07 To: Vijay Tiwari Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in one-by-one digit format? Vijay Tiwari wrote: > Hello all > > yes KPML is not implement into implement this scenario. its only for > DTMF digits. It was not *intended* for this, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be used for this purpose. However there is no standard defined for doing so. And its extremely unlikely that one would be defined, because it requires a different division of responsibility between components than the sip specs assume. Specifically, to do this, you have to turn the sip phone into a dumb device, akin to MGCP, with a master that does most of the work. You need to do this, because you must establish a session with *something* that will receive the digits, and then eventually decide when a full number has been entered, and then initiate a call. Thanks, Paul > Thanks > Vijay > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:38 PM, hadi motamedi <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Vijay Tiwari > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hello All > > this KPML subscription package used for DTMF digits not for > invite number in request URI. > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Prasath Elangovan -X (prelango > - HCL at Cisco) <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > > Hey Hadi, > > You could do this via KPML Subscription package. Send invite > with just 6 and remaining digits throught NOTIFY. > > Thanks, Prasath > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] > *On Behalf Of *hadi motamedi > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:42 AM > *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > *Subject:* [Sip] Inquiry:SIP sending dialed digits in > one-by-one digit format? > > > Dear All > Can you please do me favor and let me know if it is technically > feasible to send the sip dialed digits in one-by-one-digit > format ? I > mean if the subs dials say 6659983 we try to send it as > 6,6,5,9,9,8,3 > but not as 6659983 in just one package with sip invite . > Thank you in advance > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > Use [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> for questions on > current sip > Use [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> for new > developments on the application of sip > > > > > -- > They can because they think they can. > > > > Sorry. You mean KPML cannot implement this scenario ? > > > > > > > -- > They can because they think they can. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use > [email protected] for questions on current sip Use > [email protected] for new developments on the application of sip _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use [email protected] for questions on current sip Use [email protected] for new developments on the application of sip ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use [email protected] for questions on current sip Use [email protected] for new developments on the application of sip End of Sip Digest, Vol 65, Issue 2 ********************************** _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use [email protected] for questions on current sip Use [email protected] for new developments on the application of sip