Re: DKIM and DMARC, Email explained from first principles

John C Klensin <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.smtp
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--On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 16:36 -0400 Nathaniel Borenstein
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> But I believe I made my point clear: that (the same) people
>> can end up using
>> the DKIM in exactly the opposite manner, for the simple
>> reason that they see
>> DKIM used more by unwanted mail, than not,

> It seems to me you can make the same claim for almost any
> feature of email (or anything else) that is used by both the
> good and bad guys.  "Most of the mail we receive that uses
> multipart/related comes from good/bad guys, so I will/won't
> block it."  The fact that others are doing things stupidly
> isn't a good reason for the rest of us not to do them
> intelligently.  If it were, it would be time to give up on
> email altogether.

FWIW, a very strong +1.

IMO, we should be specifying thing to work in the best way
possible.  I suspect we could probably do a better job of
explaining decisions and the tradeoffs that went into them so as
to reduce the odds that good people will make bad decisions in
the hope of avoiding the evildoers.  Explaining particular
decisions will probably serve us better, at least with those who
want to Do the Right Thing than taking positions that are too
easily interpreted as "because we said so".  

best,
   john
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