Re: Appeal to Authority (was: Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-crocker-email-deliveredto-05.txt)

Dave Crocker <[email protected]> Thu, 5 Aug 2021 18:39:57 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.smtp
Organization Brandenburg InternetWorking
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 8/5/2021 6:28 PM, Valdis Klētnieks wrote:
> [~/Mail] find . -type f -mtime +7300 -name '[0-9]*' | tee /tmp/over20 | xargs grep -i ^Delivered-to: > /tmp/deliveries
> [~/Mail] wc /tmp/over20
>   35421  35421 507694 /tmp/over20
> [~/Mail] wc /tmp/deliveries
>   13694  31246 801887 /tmp/deliveries
> 
> So literally*last century*  40% of the mail I kept around arrived with a
> Delivered-To: tag.  None were local deliveries in my mailbox, and the vast
> majority were various mailing lists (9,759 were various SecurityFocus lists,
> 2,306 from the NANOG list, and 1,629 from a total of 54 different sources
> from literally every continent.

That's nice.  However it does nothing to tell us what was IN those 
header fields.  That's the issue that is being contested.

Also, you didn't provide any source data, or a summary of the details 
about that source data, except where the fields were generated.

So, again, it does nothing to aid in resolving questions about adequacy 
of the current draft text.


> Now can we get rid of the "We don't have detailed technical information"
> straw man to avoid admitting that this tag has been around for an
> Internet-archaeological amount of time?

No.

Feel free to try again.  You might want to review the recent email 
discussion, to clarify what questions are at issue.

d/

-- 
Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net

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