RE: PCE BOF - Thursday August 5, 13:00 to 15:00

"BOUCADAIR Mohamed RD-CORE-CAE" <[email protected]> Mon, 9 Aug 2004 10:37:44 +0200
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Hi,=20
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The=20
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draft-mescal-pce-interas-00.txt
draft-mescal-pcp-interas-00.txt
draft-mescal-pceid-00.txt
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drafts are work in progress. Further information about related work =
could be found in  <http://www.mescal.org> www.mescal.org.
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Best regards,
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Mohamed

-----Message d'origine-----
De : [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]De la =
part de lidefeng
Envoy=A8=A6 : jeudi 5 ao?t 2004 02:53
=A8=A4 : Jean Philippe Vasseur; [email protected]; [email protected]; TEWG; =
[email protected]
Cc : [email protected]; [email protected]; Bill Fenner
Objet : Re: PCE BOF - Thursday August 5, 13:00 to 15:00


Hi,
=20
I think it is very necessary to do this work in IETF, Service Providers =
in China also expressed such requirements during the technical =
exchanges.
=20
I have delved into PCE.ppt in the link, however, I can't find the =
following drafts, If anyone can share with me? Could you please send me =
these drafts in e-mail, Thanks!
=20
draft-mescal-pce-interas-00.txt
draft-mescal-pcp-interas-00.txt
draft-mescal-pceid-00.txt
=20
Best Regards
Defeng Li=20

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Jean Philippe  <mailto:[email protected]> Vasseur=20
To: [email protected] ; [email protected] ; TEWG =
<mailto:[email protected]>  ; [email protected]=20
Cc: [email protected] ; [email protected] ; Bill  =
<mailto:[email protected]> Fenner=20
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 1:07 PM
Subject: PCE BOF - Thursday August 5, 13:00 to 15:00

Hi,

Just to let you know that the set of slides for the PCE BOF will be =
available next Monday morning (  <http://www.olddog.co.uk/60/pce.ppt> =
http://www.olddog.co.uk/60/pce.ppt)

Cheers,

JP and Adrian.

Path Computation Element BOF (PCE BOF)=20
60th IETF, San Diego, August 2004

Routing Area Ads: Alex Zinin ( [email protected]),=20
Bill Fenner ( [email protected])

BOF Chairs: JP Vasseur ( [email protected]), Adrian Farrel ( =
[email protected])

Description:=20
In certain MPLS TE networks it may be beneficial or desirable to have =
path=20
computation performed by a distinct node (termed the Path Computation=20
Element PCE) that is not the LSR that needs to know the path. This BOF=20
examines the scope of such function, what extensions to existing =
protocols=20
might required, what additional protocols may need to be developed, and=20
whether there is cuase and support for this work within the IETF.=20

Proposed WG Charter=20

Organizational Overview=20
The PCE working group coordinates the work within the IETF of defining =
the=20
operation of path computation elements within the Internet. Path=20
computation elements are responsible for computing paths through IP=20
networks for uses such as traffic engineering so that a prime consumer =
of=20
such paths might be an MPLS-TE LSR. Areas of responsibility will include =

the collection of attributes relevant to the computation of paths, the=20
discovery by LSRs of available path computation elements, the =
communication=20
with LSRs for the request of path computation, the collaboration between =

path computation elements within the network, and analysis of path=20
computation algorithms with a view to ensuring consistency between =
computed=20
paths. The working group will work closely with many working groups in =
the=20
Routing Area including the OSPF, IS-IS, IDR, MPLS and CCAMP working =
groups.=20

Working Group Scope=20

The PCE working group scope includes:=20
- Definition of Generalized Traffic Engineered LSP paths computation=20
techniques involving Path Computation Element(s). This includes the =
intra=20
IGP area, inter IGP area, inter-AS and inter-provider TE LSPs path=20
computation for Point-to-Point, Point-to-Multipoint and=20
Multipoint-to-Multipoint TE LSPs.=20
- Definition of protocol-independent metrics and constraints defining =
path=20
quality measurement criteria, algorithm complexity and scalability =
criteria=20
related to path computation techniques.=20
- Definition of requirements for communication between LSRs and PCEs=20
including routing extensions in support of PCE discovery techniques =
within=20
an IGP area and across multiple IGP areas, ASes and Provider networks, =
and=20
including the development of new protocols or protocol extensions for=20
requesting path computation and supplying responses. Any protocol=20
extensions will developed in conjunction with the working groups in =
charge=20
of the specific protocols.=20
- Specification of routing (OSPF, ISIS, BGP) and signalling extensions=20
(RSVP-TE) required by PCE-based path computation techniques. The =
extensions=20
will developed in conjunction with the working groups in charge of the=20
specific protocols.=20
- Specification of requirements and protocol extensions related to the=20
policy, security and confidentiality aspects of PCE-based path =
computation=20
techniques involving PCEs of multiple Providers.=20
- Definition of MIBs, management procedures related to the protocol=20
extensions defined by the WG=20
In doing this work, the WG will closely work with at least the following =

other WGs: CCAMP, MPLS, ISIS, OSPF, IDR. The WG will also cooperate with =

the ITU-T and OIF.=20

Goals and Milestones=20
Dates for milestones to be decided later.=20
- Post strawman WG goals and charter.=20
- Submit WG document defining the framework and applicability of the=20
PCE model.=20
- Select a single candidate protocol from communication between LSRs=20
and PCEs.=20
- Submit document(s) that define various path computation models=20
- Submit an analysis document examining the requirements for coherent=20
computation techniques and the implication of cooperation between=20
PCEs.=20
- Submit a document defining the protocol for communication between=20
LSRs and PCEs.=20
- Submit document(s) defining extensions to routing and signalling=20
protocols necessary to support the use of a PCE model within MPLS=20
networks.=20
- Submit a document defining MIB modules for modeling and management=20
of PCE systems.



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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>draft-mescal-pce-interas-00.txt</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>draft-mescal-pcp-interas-00.txt</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>draft-mescal-pceid-00.txt</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D368213508-09082004><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
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face=3D"Courier New">drafts are work in progress. Further information =
about=20
related work could be found in </FONT><A =
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face=3D"Courier New">www.mescal.org</FONT></A><FONT=20
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size=3D2>Best regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D368213508-09082004><FONT face=3D"Courier New" =
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De&nbsp;:</B>=20
  [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]<B>De la =
part de</B>=20
  lidefeng<BR><B>Envoy=A8=A6&nbsp;:</B> jeudi 5 ao&ucirc;t 2004 =
02:53<BR><B>&Agrave;&nbsp;:</B>=20
  Jean Philippe Vasseur; [email protected]; [email protected]; TEWG;=20
  [email protected]<BR><B>Cc&nbsp;:</B> [email protected]; [email protected]; =
Bill=20
  Fenner<BR><B>Objet&nbsp;:</B> Re: PCE BOF - Thursday August 5, 13:00 =
to=20
  15:00<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think it is very necessary to do =
this work in=20
  IETF, Service Providers in China also expressed such requirements =
during the=20
  technical exchanges.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have delved into PCE.ppt in the =
link, however,=20
  I can't find the following drafts, If anyone&nbsp;can share with me? =
Could you=20
  please send&nbsp;me these drafts&nbsp;in e-mail, Thanks!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>draft-mescal-pce-interas-00.txt</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>draft-mescal-pcp-interas-00.txt</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>draft-mescal-pceid-00.txt</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best Regards</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Defeng Li</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A [email protected] =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Jean Philippe=20
    Vasseur</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
[email protected]=20
    href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> ; <A=20
    [email protected] =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> ; <A=20
    [email protected] =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">TEWG</A> ; <A=20
    [email protected] =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
[email protected]=20
    href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> ; <A=20
    [email protected] =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> ; <A=20
    [email protected] =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Bill=20
    Fenner</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 01, 2004 =
1:07=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> PCE BOF - Thursday =
August 5,=20
    13:00 to 15:00</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi,<BR><BR>Just to let you know that the set of =
slides for=20
    the PCE BOF will be available next Monday morning (<A=20
    href=3D"http://www.olddog.co.uk/60/pce.ppt" eudora=3D"autourl"><FONT =

    face=3D"Arial, =
Helvetica"><B>http://www.olddog.co.uk/60/pce.ppt</A>)<BR><BR></B></FONT>C=
heers,<BR><BR>JP=20
    and Adrian.<BR><BR><B>Path Computation Element BOF (PCE BOF) =
<BR>60th IETF,=20
    San Diego, August 2004<BR><BR></B>Routing Area Ads: Alex Zinin (<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>), <BR>Bill Fenner =
(<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>)<BR><=
BR>BOF=20
    Chairs: JP Vasseur (<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>), Adrian =
Farrel (<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>)<BR><BR>Descr=
iption:=20
    <BR>In certain MPLS TE networks it may be beneficial or desirable to =
have=20
    path <BR>computation performed by a distinct node (termed the Path=20
    Computation <BR>Element PCE) that is not the LSR that needs to know =
the=20
    path. This BOF <BR>examines the scope of such function, what =
extensions to=20
    existing protocols <BR>might required, what additional protocols may =
need to=20
    be developed, and <BR>whether there is cuase and support for this =
work=20
    within the IETF. <BR><BR>Proposed WG Charter <BR><BR>Organizational =
Overview=20
    <BR>The PCE working group coordinates the work within the IETF of =
defining=20
    the <BR>operation of path computation elements within the Internet. =
Path=20
    <BR>computation elements are responsible for computing paths through =
IP=20
    <BR>networks for uses such as traffic engineering so that a prime =
consumer=20
    of <BR>such paths might be an MPLS-TE LSR. Areas of responsibility =
will=20
    include <BR>the collection of attributes relevant to the computation =
of=20
    paths, the <BR>discovery by LSRs of available path computation =
elements, the=20
    communication <BR>with LSRs for the request of path computation, the =

    collaboration between <BR>path computation elements within the =
network, and=20
    analysis of path <BR>computation algorithms with a view to ensuring=20
    consistency between computed <BR>paths. The working group will work =
closely=20
    with many working groups in the <BR>Routing Area including the OSPF, =
IS-IS,=20
    IDR, MPLS and CCAMP working groups. <BR><BR>Working Group Scope =
<BR><BR>The=20
    PCE working group scope includes: <BR>- Definition of Generalized =
Traffic=20
    Engineered LSP paths computation <BR>techniques involving Path =
Computation=20
    Element(s). This includes the intra <BR>IGP area, inter IGP area, =
inter-AS=20
    and inter-provider TE LSPs path <BR>computation for Point-to-Point,=20
    Point-to-Multipoint and <BR>Multipoint-to-Multipoint TE LSPs. <BR>-=20
    Definition of protocol-independent metrics and constraints defining =
path=20
    <BR>quality measurement criteria, algorithm complexity and =
scalability=20
    criteria <BR>related to path computation techniques. <BR>- =
Definition of=20
    requirements for communication between LSRs and PCEs <BR>including =
routing=20
    extensions in support of PCE discovery techniques within <BR>an IGP =
area and=20
    across multiple IGP areas, ASes and Provider networks, and =
<BR>including the=20
    development of new protocols or protocol extensions for =
<BR>requesting path=20
    computation and supplying responses. Any protocol <BR>extensions =
will=20
    developed in conjunction with the working groups in charge <BR>of =
the=20
    specific protocols. <BR>- Specification of routing (OSPF, ISIS, BGP) =
and=20
    signalling extensions <BR>(RSVP-TE) required by PCE-based path =
computation=20
    techniques. The extensions <BR>will developed in conjunction with =
the=20
    working groups in charge of the <BR>specific protocols. <BR>- =
Specification=20
    of requirements and protocol extensions related to the <BR>policy, =
security=20
    and confidentiality aspects of PCE-based path computation =
<BR>techniques=20
    involving PCEs of multiple Providers. <BR>- Definition of MIBs, =
management=20
    procedures related to the protocol <BR>extensions defined by the WG =
<BR>In=20
    doing this work, the WG will closely work with at least the =
following=20
    <BR>other WGs: CCAMP, MPLS, ISIS, OSPF, IDR. The WG will also =
cooperate with=20
    <BR>the ITU-T and OIF. <BR><BR>Goals and Milestones <BR>Dates for =
milestones=20
    to be decided later. <BR>- Post strawman WG goals and charter. <BR>- =
Submit=20
    WG document defining the framework and applicability of the <BR>PCE =
model.=20
    <BR>- Select a single candidate protocol from communication between =
LSRs=20
    <BR>and PCEs. <BR>- Submit document(s) that define various path =
computation=20
    models <BR>- Submit an analysis document examining the requirements =
for=20
    coherent <BR>computation techniques and the implication of =
cooperation=20
    between <BR>PCEs. <BR>- Submit a document defining the protocol for=20
    communication between <BR>LSRs and PCEs. <BR>- Submit document(s) =
defining=20
    extensions to routing and signalling <BR>protocols necessary to =
support the=20
    use of a PCE model within MPLS <BR>networks. <BR>- Submit a document =

    defining MIB modules for modeling and management <BR>of PCE=20
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