[TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: SSLKEYLOGFILE vs pure-ML-KEM

Christian Huitema <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.tls
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 7/8/2026 11:53 AM, Dang, Quynh H. (Fed) wrote:
> Hi Christian,
>
> If one does not trust the RBG they use, they should add that hash to all outputs of the RBG to protect their system and in this case the hash function is considered a part of a new RBG which has this outer hash on top of the RBG they don't trust.
>
> Protecting the KEM alone and let the rest of the system broken would not be the best I think.
>
> Or, don't use that RBG, use the one you trust or develop your own RBG.

Yes, this is a generic issue, not an issue specifically related to 
ML-KEM. On the other hand, pointing that RBG trust in the ML-KEM 
document and suggesting potential mitigations would surely help cool 
down the debate. Maybe add a reference to appendix C.1 of RFC 8446. 
Maybe, as Nick Sullivan wrote, add a mention of RFC 8937 as a potential 
mitigation for the concerns expressed in this debate, whatever their merits.

Looking at the generic issue, I would have loved to find a more recent 
reference than RFC 4086, Randomness Requirements for Security.

-- Christian Huitema

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