[TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-08 (Ends 20 26-07-08)

Jacob Appelbaum <[email protected]> Wed, 15 Jul 2026 00:02:35 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.tls
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi Rob,

On 7/14/26 22:50, Rob Sayre wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 1:30 PM Erwin Hoffmann <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>>
>> I'm not going to ride a dead horse ... My point of view can be found
>> here
>>
> 
> It's "beat a dead horse", and "Leia". Furthermore, Star Wars is a
> repurposed Vietnam movie.*
> 

"This is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, lotta 
outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, 
man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty 
strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind, you know, limber." [0]

> It was co-written by John Milius (by all accounts faithfully portrayed by
> John Goodman in "The Big Lebowski").

Like the man said: "This is our concern, Dude."

> 
> But, yes, just hash it.

Does this mean that you support a note about restoring the Kyber hash 
strategy, in addition to explicitly listing the hard requirements such 
as the NIST-approved RBG and NIST-approved entropy source?

Kind regards,
Jacob Appelbaum

[0] https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Big_Lebowski

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