[TLS] Re: Response to CoI Complaints

Dennis Jackson <[email protected]> Thu, 16 Jul 2026 10:35:06 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.tls
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I have only interacted with Deb in the past couple of years, but those 
interactions have consistently demonstrated her integrity, fairness, and 
willingness to engage with challenging but important issues.

The lazy ad-hominem attacks which have characterized recent discussions 
have no place in the IETF community and reflect far more poorly on those 
making them than on their intended targets.

We owe our ADs, and Deb in particular, a great deal of gratitude for the 
time & energy they sacrifice to keep the IETF running.

Best,
Dennis

On 15/07/2026 19:49, Deb Cooley wrote:
>
> For the record:  I have been a Security Area Director since March 
> 2024, that is 2 years and a couple of months.
>
>
> There have been previous inquiries into my ability to perform the 
> duties of Security Area Director  via the SSHM working group, and as 
> part of complaints against the TLS chairs/AD.  Those have been 
> responded to by the IESG, the artifacts are below:
>
>
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ssh/7KRZCX_bvZWUOG50HqDg_KVT77c/
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/iesg/appeals/ (see artifacts 
> 125/126, as well as 128/129)
>
>
> In addition to the artifacts above, I suggest that there might be 
> people for whom I have worked with that could give an opinion on my 
> work ethic and conduct for the last 2 plus years.
>
>
> The recourse for anyone who doesn’t believe this is a sufficient 
> response is free to take a look at [RFC 8713, Section 
> 7](https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8713/#section-7).
>
>
> Just a couple of minor points:
>
> 1.  Retirement means that I don't work for NSA anymore.  I earn no 
> salary.
>
> 2.  Retired does not mean the same as 'defected'.
>
> 3.  My bio is accurate see here: 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/person/Deb%20Cooley. 37+ years of service 
> in Cybersecurity which used to be Information Assurance, which used to 
> be Information Security, which used to be COMSEC.
>
> 4.  If you read RFC 9151, read all of it.  Section 6 and 7 have MAY 
> requirements which improve interoperability.  Note that the draft was 
> published in February 2021 when Adrian Farrel was the ISE.  It was 
> reviewed by a noteworthy set of reviewers including the late Jim Schaad.
>
>
>
> Deb Cooley
> Sec AD
>
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