[Uta] Re: Recall Petition pursuant to § 7.1.1 of RF C 8713: SEC AD Deb Cooley

Brian E Carpenter <[email protected]> Tue, 21 Jul 2026 09:14:57 +1200
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.uta,gmane.ietf.tls,gmane.ietf.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Eric,

In fairness, it was copied to the IETF list, so one of the conditions in RFC 8713 was met ("announced to the IETF community"). The others are not, as far as I can see.

Regards/Ngā mihi
    Brian Carpenter

On 21-Jul-26 05:33, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> This is not how recalls work. A recall petition needs to be signed by 20 nomcom-eligible
> IETF community members and is sent to the ISOC President [0]:
> 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8713#name-member-trustee-and-director <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8713#name-member-trustee-and-director>
> 
> What you have here is just an email to the TLS mailing list, which has no effect.
> 
> -Ekr
> 
> 
> [0] The ombudsteam can also initiate a recall in cases of harassment but you don't appear to be claiming that this is that.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2026 at 10:26 AM Timo Gerke <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>     Dear Community,
> 
>     I hereby initiate a Recall Petition pursuant to § 7.1.1 of
>     RFC 8713 against SEC AD Deb Cooley, regarding a significant
>     breach in confidentiality of communication.
> 
>     While her technical competence within the Security Area is
>     recognized without a doubt, the NomCom MAY consider to verify the
>     trustworthiness of the named SEC AD based on the documented
>     procedural infractions.
> 
>     To safeguard the fundamental integrity of the IETF standards
>     process, the technical evidence regarding this unauthorized
>     backchannel disclosure is provided below.
> 
>     TECHNICAL EVIDENCE OF SECURITY LACK
> 
>     1. My Private Notice to SEC AD Deb Cooley's officially in
>     Datatracker regisered Mailaddress
>     Message-ID: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 10:15:36 +0200
>     MIME-Version: 1.0
>     User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
>     Content-Language: en-US, de-DE
>     From: Timo Gerke <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     To: "Deb Cooley (IETF, AD Security Area)" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     Subject: Notice: Operational Analysis & Cluster C430 Deadlock
>     (TLS/UTA)
> 
>     2. SEC AD Deb Cooley's response
>     References: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     In-Reply-To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     From: Deb Cooley <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 06:42:16 +0100
>     Subject: Re: Notice: Operational Analysis & Cluster C430 Deadlock
>     (TLS/UTA)
>     To: Timo Gerke <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     Cc: Eric Rescorla <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> 
> 
>     Best regards,
> 
>     Timo Gerke
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