[media-types] [IANA #1449400] application/vnd.supercar d-pro-disk-image registration request
"Amanda Baber via RT" <[email protected]> Mon, 08 Jun 2026 19:34:20 +0000
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Hi, Follow up from the requester concerning vnd.pasti-stx-disk-image: "I just noticed that the original author of the Pasti-STX disk images still has a website online: https://pasti.fxatari.com/ ... and there is also an e-mail address listed on that site that I wasn't aware of before, so I now also tried to contact them via that mail address, maybe that works better then sending a message on that www.atari-forum.com site... "Anyway, in case I don't get a response within the next one or two weeks, the name of the original author of the Pasti disk format is listed in a text file that you can find in the ZIP files on that pasti.fxatari.com page: Jorge Cwik ... so I guess you could use "on behalf of Jorge Cwik" in the registration." thanks, Amanda On Mon Jun 08 18:42:00 2026, amanda.baber wrote: > Hi Alexey, Murray, Darrel, > > We received this update from the applicant: > > "I tried to contact the SuperCard-Pro manufactures > via their contact form on > https://www.cbmstuff.com/index.php?route=information/contact and the > IPF > inventors via their contact form on https://softpres.org/contact and > the author of the Pasti STX file format via http://www.atari-forum.com > and asked them whether they would be interested to register the mime > types > on their own. So far, I did not get an answer from anybody yet within > the > last three or four weeks. So no clue how to proceed here ... could the > mime types still be registered with > an 'on behalf of' remark?" > > All three of these requests (this one, vnd.pasti-stx-disk-image, > vnd.softpres-ipf-disk-image) were described as OK to register pending > some kind of resolution of the change controller issue. > > Are these OK to register with the change controller described this > way? Phrasing taken from RFC 6838, Section 3.2: > > supercard-pro: > "Thomas Huth, on behalf of CBMSTUFF.COM" > These pages point to this organization: > https://www.cbmstuff.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=52 > https://www.cbmstuff.com/about_us > > vnd.softpres-ipf-disk-image: > "Thomas Huth, on behalf of the Software Preservation Society" > This document points to SPS: > https://www.kryoflux.com/download/ipf_documentation_v1.6.pdf > > I'm not sure how to propose a change controller field entry for > vnd.pasti-stx-disk-image. The request refers to atari-forum posts I'm > unable to access. There's also this document from 2014, where the > authors writes, "Note: The author (Ijor) has not published the Pasti > format. Therefore this description is mainly based on reverse > engineering performed by Markus Fritze, P. Putnik, and myself (see > references at the end of the document). Ijor has also kindly replied > to several of my questions. However beware that this description of > the Pasti format might contain errors": > > https://info-coach.fr/atari/documents/_mydoc/Pasti-documentation.pdf > > thanks, > Amanda > > On Wed Apr 29 04:43:50 2026, [email protected] wrote: > > I agree with Alexey's concern. Moreover, if SuperCard Pro or their > > representative later want to change this and Thomas is unresponsive > > or > > contrary for whatever reason, what process exists to resolve that > > situation? > > > > If SuperCard Pro is the nominal owner of the registration, the > > relationship > > between them and the registrant should be more clear. > > > > -MSK > > > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2026 at 6:12 PM Amanda Baber via RT < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Darrel, Murray, > > > > > > Could you see if you'd like to add anything to Alexey's change > > > controller > > > advice by the end of the week? > > > > > > thanks, > > > Amanda > > > > > > On Wed Apr 22 09:59:45 2026, [email protected] wrote: > > > > Hi Amanda, > > > > > > > > I am hoping than Darrel and Murray will weigh in. But see my > > > > comments > > > > below: > > > > > > > > On 13/04/2026 19:39, Amanda Baber via RT wrote: > > > > > Hi Alexey, Darrel, Murray, > > > > > > > > > > Addressing this to all of you, as Alexey mentioned that he'd > > > > > like to > > > > > hear from others as to whether it's OK to list Thomas Huth as > > > > > the > > > > > change controller for these: > > > > > > > > > > We heard back from Thomas in reference to this supercard > > > > > request. He > > > > > wrote, "I need the mime-type for the emulator Hatari where I am > > > > > involved in (https://www.hatari-emu.org/) - that emulator > > > > > recently > > > > > gained the feature > > > > > to load SuperCard Pro disk images, too. Sorry if I messed up > > > > > the > > > > > registration ... do I have to contact the original > > > > > Supercard hardware manufacturer instead, and ask them to > > > > > register the > > > > > mime-type?" > > > > > > > > Original hardware/software manufacturer doesn't need to initiate > > > > the > > > > registration, but I think they need to be contacted. > > > > > > > > Thomas should contact SuperCard Pro people, who are either say > > > > that it > > > > is Ok for him to be listed as the Change Controller or they > > > > should be > > > > listed as the Change Controller, but they are otherwise happy > > > > with > > > > Thomas' registration template. There is also a separate question > > > > of > > > > whether or not Thomas should be the Contact person for the > > > > registration. > > > > > > > > If Thomas contacts SuperCard Pro and gets no response, then I > > > > think > > > > this > > > > can be registered as a third party registration. > > > > > > > > If SuperCard Pro people say that they are not happy with the > > > > registration, we can have a separate discussion. > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, I am trying to avoid the situation that SuperCard Pro > > > > people > > > > discover later on that there is a registration related to their > > > > product > > > > and that there was no attempt to make them aware of it. Does this > > > > make > > > > sense? > > > > > > > > > How should this proceed? > > > > > > > > > > Would the recommendation be the same for all three requests? > > > > > > > > Yes, I think the same issue applies to all three. > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > Alexey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > Amanda > > > > > > > > > > On Wed Apr 08 10:30:46 2026, [email protected] wrote: > > > > >> Hi Amanda, > > > > >> > > > > >> I don't fully understand the relationship between Thomas Huth > > > > >> and > > > > >> SuperCard Pro. In particular I see that Thomas is listed as > > > > >> the > > > > >> change > > > > >> controller and this is not a third party registration. > > > > >> > > > > >> Other than that, this would be fine to register. > > > > >> > > > > >> Best Regards, > > > > >> > > > > >> Alexey > > > > >> > > > > >> On 07/04/2026 00:09, Amanda Baber via RT wrote: > > > > >>> Hi Alexey, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> This is the first of three requests from this applicant. Can > > > > >>> you > > > > >>> review these by April 20th? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> thanks, > > > > >>> Amanda > > > > >>> > > > > >>> ===== > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Name: Thomas Huth > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Email:[email protected] > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Media type name: application > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Media subtype name: vnd.supercard-pro-disk-image > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Required parameters: N/A > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Optional parameters: N/A > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Encoding considerations: binary > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Security considerations: SuperCard Pro (SCP) disk images can > > > > >>> store > > > > >>> the same data as a real floppy disk. That means they may > > > > >>> contain > > > > >>> arbitrary content, including but not limited to active > > > > >>> content. > > > > >>> Thus > > > > >>> if the users do not trust the contents of the disk image, > > > > >>> they > > > > >>> should > > > > >>> carefully check the contents first before using it (e.g. with > > > > >>> a > > > > >>> suitable anti-virus software to check for known malicious > > > > >>> software). > > > > >>> The SCP format also does not provide privacy or full > > > > >>> integrity > > > > >>> protection, so if these protections are desired they must be > > > > >>> applied > > > > >>> externally. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Interoperability considerations: There are multiple versions > > > > >>> of the > > > > >>> file format. Applications that have been written by using an > > > > >>> older > > > > >>> version of the specification might be (partly or fully) > > > > >>> unable to > > > > >>> use > > > > >>> SCP disk images that have been created by another application > > > > >>> which > > > > >>> used a newer version of the specification. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Published > > > > >>> specification: > > > https://www.cbmstuff.com/downloads/scp/scp_image_specs.txt > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Applications which use this media: The SCP file format is > > > > >>> used by > > > > >>> floppy disk preservation tools and various emulators of old > > > > >>> computers > > > > >>> that used such floppy disks. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Fragment identifier considerations: N/A > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Restrictions on usage: N/A > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Provisional registration? (standards tree only): No > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Additional information: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> 1. Deprecated alias names for this type: N/A > > > > >>> 2. Magic number(s): 0x53 0x43 0x50 at byte position 0 - 2 > > > > >>> (i.e. the > > > > >>> ASCII letters "SCP") > > > > >>> 3. File extension(s): .scp > > > > >>> 4. Macintosh file type code: N/A > > > > >>> 5. Object Identifiers: N/A > > > > >>> > > > > >>> General Comments: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Person to contact for further information: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> 1. Name: Thomas Huth > > > > >>> 2. Email:[email protected] > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Intended usage: COMMON > > > > >>> > > > > >>> SCP files are usually created by disk preservation tools like > > > > >>> the > > > > >>> software that is used to drive the "SuperCard Pro" hardware. > > > > >>> The > > > > >>> SCP > > > > >>> files contain the low-level flux data of the disk and thus > > > > >>> can be > > > > >>> used to fully preserve the contents of a floppy disk. These > > > > >>> files > > > > >>> then can be used to create a copy of the original disk, or > > > > >>> they can > > > > >>> be used in emulators for providing the floppy disk contents > > > > >>> to the > > > > >>> emulated system. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Author/Change controller: Thomas Huth > > > > >>> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > media-types mailing list -- [email protected] > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > > > > > _______________________________________________ media-types mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]