Re: [URN] Re: URL internationalization!

"Alain LaBont/e'/" <[email protected]> Tue, 25 Feb 1997 10:44:24
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.url
Message-ID <[email protected]>
A 00:03 97-02-26 JST, Masataka Ohta a écrit :

[Alain LaBonté] :
>> Turkish is probably the worst case btw. Turkish uses the latin script
but...

[Masataka Ohta] :
>These days, there are annoying live demonstrations in ietf ML that
>Turkish is just fine with ASCII. Have you done something?

[Alain LaBonté] :
No, I am not aware of this. But I know that the Turks would not agree. It
is one of the best examples to show that ASCII is unsuited to represent the
whole Latin script.

[Masataka Ohta] :
>> If they pronounce it they have it wrong all the time. On a speakerphone in
>> an airport a Turk might not recognize his/her own name.

[Masataka Ohta] :
>??? How can the speakerphone operator pronounce my name written in
>Kanji?

[Alain] :
The sub-thread (a perenthesis open by Jan, pronounced Yan) of this
discussion, I believe, dealt with the use of the International Phonetic
Alphabet for machine-readable passports or for airline tickets. I said that
I supported that idea fully, implicitly regreting that it is utopic (but I
believe in Utopia sometimes (: ) Of course Kanji is a problem as even a
Japanese needs to be initiated to transform it into kana. That is not the
point. Kanji should be allowed in URLs though, as I believe in the use of
*a* universal character set reproducible everywhere on earth, temporarily
with a fallback if necessary.

But to come back to the sub-thread, with the IPA any human-pronounceable
sound can be represented, your name as well as the most delightful Cockney
accent in English. Its use would make all humans equal as far as name
pronunciation is involved. It could even be represented in some URLs (:


Alain LaBonté (pronounce LaBontay - also note that "ain" and "on" are pure 
                 nasal vowel sounds, not diphthongs! and these sounds can't
be 
                 represented in ASCII without long explanations on how to
                 reconfigure your internal mouth and tongue (: )
Québec (pronounce Kaybec, even in standard English!)